Bristol Supporters Club & Trust Statement

Is it a idiotic, stupid racist oar? Loathsneyd will make that decison for everybody.

 

But why change a non political gesture because of some racists/idiots? The kneeling on Saturday had nothing to do with BLM

 

Well you did actually, you said the gesture of taking the knee was not political, when clearly it is. You yourself said that the gesture was centuries old, which is true but it has been hijacked by a far left wing organisation which is racist at it's core. It's as I mentioned before like the Roman salute which was hijacked by the nazis.

I agree that booing is wrong and isn't helpful, but neither is not engaging with fans to find a gesture that is inclusive and not attached to a political organisation. Booing this gesture is not always going to be racist motivated and labelling everybody doing it is in itself idiotic.

 

Depends if he booed on Saturday and if he did whether because he was racist or stupid

 

Clearly it not because we have been told that its not

 

It is associated/hijacked by a left wing organisation that is racist at it's core, you cannot separate the two, otherwise the Roman salute would still be OK or perhaps if players started to do that but claimed it was non political, would that be OK?

 

Because it has a political stigma. Football clubs reiterating messages that this is not political highlight that the gesture, not the message is flawed and problematic. The gesture has a history, a history that associates it to the political.

 

So nobody is allowed to kneel anymore?

 

So kneeling should be outlawed then?

 

So nobody is allowed to make the Roman salute anymore? Two can play at that.

Why can't a compromise be found to include all fans? like I said arms around each other, everybody in the ground can do it along with the players, surely it would have far more of an impact?

 

No, of course not, but make it inclusive, there is not enough room for fans to take the knee and old feckers like me may never be able to get up again, putting your arms around each other is non political and inclusive and shows friendship taking the knee is/does not.

 

I do not think legality comes into it.

Clubs and players and all have freedom of expression. They are free to choose an alternative free from politics to better support their message. Bristol rugby club does.

 

To be honest I dont see a problem with that or reclaiming the swastika that was hijacked by the Nazi's. I think bowing to the tiny minority who don't understand will set a dangerous precedent

 

But it's not political. We've been told that. Its not difficult to understand

 

Wow that is unreal, are you a member of the labour party per chance? I suspect the Jewish community might have something to say about that little nugget.

For the last time just like cannot say that as a fact everybody that boos is idiotic or racist, just because a few footballers say it's non political does not make that a fact either.

Please answer one simple question why not find a gesture that is fully inclusive?

 

Your being told people believe it is, think it was and the former and latter presents challenges. That is not difficult to understand. Its also very easy to prove as true. Evidence is in this thread, in grounds, in statements politicians and people make. Stating on no it isn't is not a remedy that erases what people believe.

 

So we have to accept it when the booers say that are not racist but we should not accept it when footballers say it's non political. Sounds like double standards to me. I stand by why I say unless you can think of a different reason why people are booing? Either they are racist or they are booing because they believe it's political so don't understand the phrase 'Non Political'. You will never find a gesture that is fully inclusive. Don't bow to the minority is the best way forward.

 

Only idiots believe it is as they don't understand the phrase non political

 

What's this got to do with people booing Bristol City players?