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Foreign Premier League owners want to scrap relegation

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. Barmbys_Tan

    Barmbys_Tan Well-Known Member

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    Also another fair comment but its still morally wrong for them to earn such high wages for doing pretty much **** all.
     
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  2. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

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    Well stop going to games and cancel your Sky subscription, otherwise quit moaning about the monster you're voluntarily feeding.
     
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  3. Barmbys_Tan

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    I dont have Sky, its a waste of money.
     
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  4. Gawge

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    If you are willing to increase your tax payments by the amount which it would take to give soldiers 100k/pw wages, then that is fine by me. I'd rather not myself though.

    As TWF says, you can't complain about the wages of footballers if you ever go to football games, if you ever buy a football shirt, if you ever watch a game on TV, if you ever watch a game in the pub etc...
     
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  5. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

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    I suppose it is if you don't watch it.

    I tend to think it's quite good myself.

    Step one completed already then! Good, so now all you have to do is stop going to any professional football matches, stop buying any football merchandise, round up a few of your other "comrades" and start an amateur league.
     
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  6. Chiltons222

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    Eric, thank god you changed that avatar. So creepy that face. Who the hell was it?
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    You don't have to give up supporting your club, just to justify your opinion that footballers are overpaid.

    In fact, I suspect that the vast majority of people of the opinion that Premier League footballers are overpaid.

    They only waste most of it on vulcar cars, thick birds and tasteless houses anyway.
     
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  8. H-D

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    Financially, this system makes sense. Only the teams who are suitably equipped to be in the Premier League would play in the Premier League - Blackpool came up with a poor ground, **** fan base and hardly a competitive budget. Should they have overspent (which was ultimately required for them to stay up), but gone down, there would have been huge implications for them. Like us. And Portsmouth.

    Under the suggested system, we would have never got into financial trouble, and Portsmouth wouldn't have been on the verge of liquidation and still owing creditors millions of pounds - which appeared to go 'missing' in their final year of the Premier League. Had a 'suitably equipped' Premier League team been in their place, none of those farcical and pretty damaging events at Pompey would have taken place.

    However, I'm only trying to balance the argument. It would ultimately kill the football league, as Championship clubs who don't get 30,000 people to come and watch their team every week wouldn't have anything to aspire to, as they immediately won't be suitable for the criteria of the top league. Teams who actually become top class, but have a small, old ground, would never reach the top level - again because they "don't meet the criteria" to be a Premier League club.

    I'm also obviously going to be against scrapping promotions and relegations, as we would have never got into the Premiership under this proposed new system. There would have been no trip to Wembley, no wins at The Emirates, no Browny signing on the pitch and no Ian Dowie (ok, that's not exactly a benifit).

    But on the other hand, we wouldn't have needed a bail out from the Allams having nearly gone into administration. Although I'm not going to support it, I can actually see the argument for a Super League like system, unlike some of you who are just writing it off without actually thinking about it.
     
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  9. Gawge

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    Footballers are paid so much for a reason.

    That reason is the people who pay for the product which they offer. If you pay for the product which they offer (football), then you are the reason why footballers are paid so much. If you don't wish for footballers to be paid so much, surely you cannot willingly be part of the reason why they are paid that amount, it isn't logical.
     
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  10. H-D

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    <laugh>
     
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    User called Jordan.
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    I'm familiar with the concept of supply and demand, but things have got out of hand, too much of the income generated now goes to the players, it's crippling clubs, it very nearly crippled ours. While players are entertaining thousands of people, then it's quite right that they should be generously rewarded for what they do and the more talented they are, the more they should get.

    But when Kevin Kilbane can earn £26,000 per week, Paul McShane £24,000 per week and Ibrahima Sonko £28,000 per week, the system is self evidentially failing miserably.
     
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  13. Gawge

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    Fair enough, those are cases where the players should be paid even more. :p

    Although seriously, there may be individual cases where the values are even higher than the market would perhaps suggest, but those are a failure to follow the market system which we are talking about by inept owners.
     
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  14. tigercity

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    salary cap anyone?

    pull out of the crippled EU avoiding the domino effect. Everyone's going to be funding the Greeks because the cheating sods don't pay taxes.. fools like moi who live in france pay our taxes and we'll be paying for theirs and the portuguese and in the end the spanish and the italians.. so my advice to the U of K is force Cameron to give you the referendum and get the hell out of it.

    then... yep bear with me it's not OT.. you won't have to adhere to the EU laws of employment hence limiting the number of foreigners in the PL etc, bringing the price of english players down and deflating the market.
     
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  15. H-D

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    I'm still waiting for my 'promised' vote on the EU <whistle>
     
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    Thought I'd change my avatar in honour of this thread.....
     
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  17. Hythe tiger

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    Footballers do earn silly money, but as fans we pay for them by paying into sky , virgin etc, even by paying tickets for hull, hopefully selling out games would bring in better players, who in turn want more money and to be fair as long as it's sustainable unlike before , I'd be happy to see us progress. As for the army argument, I was a firefighter for a good few years and I am sure I speak for all of the services when I say the job isn't about the Money , a full time firefighter earns around 28k a year I would have done the job for love that's how much it meant to me , unfortunately a bad back finished my career. A soldier will say exactly the same its not about the money it the love of the job they do, however I an discusted when you hear of people that have died or lost limbs in either service and get nothing worth while in compo sorry guys rant over
     
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  18. smidgen

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    The energy supply industry, since de-nationalisation in the 90s, has been 'competitive'. Well no - in fact it hasn't. It hasn't because a virtual cartel exists in the industry, so charges to the consumer rise by about the same amount....because the suppliers can get away with it! <steam>

    Supply and Demand? Don't make me laugh!
     
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  19. andy payton's mullet

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    Dave Whelan is now saying that he will pull his club out of the Premier League if this proposal goes ahead. I think his club may be relegated before then anyway
     
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  20. PLT

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    This thread has got a bit crazy. The proposals are ridiculous and would destroy football, hopefully it will never happen.

    People talking about players' wages and stuff are being a bit silly though, as keeps being pointed out; they get paid so much because someone is willing to pay them it, in other words it makes financial sense to the clubs to pay them that much (in the majority of cases, obviously not under regimes like Duffen's) because the entertainment the player provides brings in even more money, so they are basically earning every penny of it.
     
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