The Abuse of qatar

But some rule by democracy. Others do not.

 

The people of these countries want to the rule their countries the way they want and as they are muslim they want their laws to be based on muslim principles. They just want to have the ability to elect their leaders and live a life where they are richer and less dependent on the west. They want to have the right to supply their natural resources to their country first before the west and they want to charge their prices. I honestly can't see a problem with this, maybe you don't believe it not to be correct but you are not living there.

 

The west is a far better place than the middle east.

For all the problems in the west at least we actually learn from them and try to do the right thing.

they dont rule the country how they want either in Qatar, they run it how their religion dictates.

Its sort of like me running a company using Lord of the Rings as my basic ideology.

 

When you speak of the people in those countries, what do you mean? Do you mean the populations of the respective countries, who all enjoyed a fair and democratic vote without any threat or intimidation? With democracy, there is no place for taking power by force. Whatever you think the majority of people in those countries think, they should have had a free vote to express such views.

 

Merry all I am saying is those people are muslims and some of the stuff they believe in such as the illiagality of homosexual acts marriage is okay to them. They will decide the new laws being posed and there will be votes on laws which have to meet islamic law. However, there issue was that they had no choice of vote of leaders and how their country was to western dominated. They want that to change

 

Islamic law is the wrong law.

its like Jedi law.....

The west is ruled by democratic governments but the middle east is ruled by fairy tales and myths...aka, religion.

Surely people see a problem with this.

 

I have no problem with their beliefs. What i have a problem with is the scenario in Egypt which is 100% certain to end with enforced Muslim rule. Their beliefs do s not entail democracy and that is a big issue for me. I think anyone who actually follows religion (regardless of creed) seriously needs to take a step back and look at what they're buying into but that is besides the point. The point is that everyone should be able to vote and should not be discriminated against. That is not the case in any country tbh but the divide appears more marked in Muslim dominated countries imo.

 

The west is dominated by Christianity and its clear for all to see. Italy, spain, france, Usa are very open Christian countries with Italy very famous for the Pope which you should know. He is very respected for Religion. However, it is not up to you to decide how the people in the arab world should live. It will be just another case of forcing imperialism through military which once again is wrong. The people in those nations live their life based on Islam and happy about that. So who are you to say they should not?

 

Haven't said they should not. I couldn't care less. I have merely observed that those countries with Muslim majorities are far from democratic. This is undisputable. Christian countries are democratic, Muslim countries are not. Very simplistic view of things but surprisingly accurate.

 

The problem is people are mistaken about Islam, we are not talking about the way Saudi is run or Iran, we are talking about similar ways Morocco are run and Dubai. The people just want to live a life how Muslims are meant to live their lives. The way they live now is not Islamic in any sense. They want the ability to chose who is leader and not. They are Muslim at the end of the day and people in the West have to accept that is how the Arab world wants to live and that is how the live.

 

There is no problem with their customs in my view (bar the outdated sexism) but I think there is an undeniable drive to gain more and more territory that won't disappear.

 

Merry sorry I was not talking to you about that comment just before my last I was talking the other poster

 

Sexism is due to religion and that won't change but the problem with this is that the worst cases are always pointed out by the western media. Its kind of changing now anyway, in north african countries there is no issue about this. Girls go to Uni and are able to do many things anyway and even in the most sexist countries they are allowed to go uni now. With change and democracy these countries will change slowly just like North african countries have. Its impossible not to merry, there is the internet, media and western influence which is too much to contain. But now with a fairer arab world I expect huge changes.

 

Hope so and no matter how long that takes, all progress is good progress.

 

All I know is its interesting times. However, this massive cloud over Israel is the biggest of problems. Honestly I don't know what will happen there, most likely nothing will change with people still being killed and Arab countries showing their discontent but with America influencing them nothing will change their as America is the biggest of powers.

 

This is turning into a politics discussion.

 

In fairness the middle east is a **** hole, its why all their lot come and live in our country. Or america.

 

While liberal democratic states are far from perfect, they are probably the best form of government there is at the moment. Show me a Muslim nation which rivals any liberal democratic state for freedom and rights?

 

The western media is trying to demonize and dehumanize Muslims fall stop"

Oohh Boo ****ing hoo.

Maybe when the extremists of that ****ing farce of a religion stop flying planes into buildings and blowing innocent people up, people may give a flyying one. Until then I dont give a ****.

 

Of course that is a disgrace and wrong to do these things but you fail to understand that how this all stemmed, the extremist did not wake up one day and say lets fly a plain into a building. The reason why there is so many foreign people from the arab world here is because their countries have been ran by dictators supported by the west. It is as simple as that, the west have stolen the resources they have and forced them to take minimum prices for the reserves they have given out, leading to a poor economy increased poverty, therefore populations have left there home land because of the poverty put upon them. Many people have left iraq because of the constant war which again has been caused by the west wanting to gain more oil. No nuclear wepons were found and that was just a cover up story. It left many refugees who then left there country. As for the terrorist they were created by the USA anyway. They trained Bin Laden and gave him wepons during 1979 for the communism battle. The terrorist began there acts because of the creation of Israel which is a known fact. I am not saying its right cause its not but it hardly escalates to millions of civilian lives killed by US and british and Israeli armies.