What makes you say it can from Turkey first? I heard it on here a few days before I saw it in any Turkish media .
I didn't get the info from the club or anyone involved from the club side of things. It came from the same person who told Me about that American interest as well, so I tend to believe them
Well I believe someone might be lying to them then It had to come from the club first whoever it is filtered through
So according to Howden2 it didn’t come from Turkey He said he heard it from the same person who he heard about the Americans from. So if he’s to be believed, and I’ve no reason to think he shouldn’t be, whichever way you look at it the information/story/rumour/lie or whatever it was started through a City connection.
Not saying it did come from Turkey first, just that it seemed to me that it did. As i recall, I heard it / came across it in the opposite order to you. I'm pretty sure it was via Turkish based SM first before it hit here. But, who knows. FWIW, I do continue to believe that the Allams would sell ...... but the issue continues to be totally unrealistic price as they continue to want back in full the supposed balance left on their gift (which has actually grown) ... so to all intents & purposes, it's not realistically for sale at all.
May I just add, the person who told me about the American & the turkey doesn't have any link to hull as a club. He acted for the Americans and not the club. Hence why I believe his account of things when it comes to the Turkish involvement going cold once asked for proof etc...
So he has nothing to do with the club, only acted on behalf of the Americans…in which case what on earth would he have to do with the sale to the Turkish person? I’m not buying them coincidentally happening to be representing the Turk too. Impossible. (and notably you would have said they were representing him if they had been) So if he represents the Americans, not the club and not the Turk then they would about as ITK as Kempton when it comes to that deal. I call bullshit I’m afraid
Not much Turkish delight then? Serious wildfires over there...Sort of puts football into perspective, don't it?
Without going into to much detail...it's his job to know exactly what his clients are up against and what other parties are doing etc. I believe him, but do if you don't that's your right to
Not only do I not believe him…I can’t even fathom out any possible way it could be true. The Turk wasn’t a competitor so not relevant to someone who represented someone completely different ages ago. Just sounds like someone playing the ‘big I am’ to me. Unless you can better explain the massive gaps in the story? To be fair to you though it’s irrelevant. I’m sure he told you what you say…I still think it’s bullshit though and still think it was a club sourced rumour, as usual
I'm talking about the Americans that where interested ( briefly ) in the summer as I mentioned a couple of months ago, so direct competition to the Turks. It's his job to work on his clients behalf to find out as much info about other parties etc. Just the same as it's an agent's job when acting for a player to find out all relevant info etc about other offers, other potential players and what they are asking for etc. It's common place in not just football but big business as a whole to have as much info to hand and find out as much info possible about competitors etc....
I do understand how large businesses work. Personally think both of those were just club rumours (I’d forgotten about this latest band of pretend Americans I was so dismissive of them) Sorry not a dig at you I just don’t believe what you’ve been fed
I don't take it as a dig, so no worries on that front. It's nice to discuss it from both sides and point of views
The Turk rumours broke from Turkey, they certainly weren't 'club fed'. As I said at the time, the Turkish media have a habit of going OTT & jumping the gun, I've followed a few players who were linked with moves to Turkey and it went from merely being linked to being 'done' in a few hours. It was always bullshit which is why I didn't trust these links saying it was done or even close
Aye agreed And it won’t be until the club are actually sold that anyone outside a few people will know whether anything concrete has happened. So it’ll always be hindsight that will ‘prove’ previous speculation so it’s not a discussion with a right or wrong really (or a provable one anyway)
Can you point to the earliest mention in Turkish media? The earliest I saw was after it had been rumoured on here. Not saying the earliest was the one I saw, hence the genuine interest because it smelt like the Turks jumping on rumours from Hull to me (in exactly the way you describe, only with slightly different timing)
26th May from a quick Twitter search is what I'm getting. Came from Hurriyet, here's a link to an article https://ulusal24.com/2021/05/26/acun-ilicali-hull-cityyi-satin-aliyor/ It broke over there then got mentioned over here.
High street shoppers relieved to know they have nothing to fear when walking past Burtons shop window, there will be no bare arses on show any time soon.
It was being discussed on here several days before that though, and on Twitter even earlier I’m not after you researching more stuff, I’m just saying that the way communication works nowadays that unless you’re the people on either end of an actual deal no one can be sure where rumours start. I still think they started in the club, or at the very least the Turk had a passing glance and the club were happy to push it out as a serious bid for the same reasons some of us think they usually do. None of us on here can prove it one way or the other though (unless one of us is either Ehab or the Turkish chap?!)