The Abuse of qatar

I have not heard a good thing about that country or Muslims by the western media or from football fans here. Its clear what is going on and anyone with a brain would realize it. You can't call a country with a law which states something is illegal wrong because of your moral high ground. This is because that is THEIR LAW. When someone who is foreign comes to this country they HAVE to abide by THESE Laws not by theirs because they think these laws are wrong. Its the same for foreign countries, laws are laws in countries.

The western media is trying to demonize and dehumanize Muslims fall stop. When you dehumanize a group of people actions which would seem cruel and inhuman become a non-issue. This is exactly what is happening, can you actually find me a time when the western news has said a good thing about Muslims. Football fans and many people have began to hate muslims which surely is immoral. If they abide by the laws here where is the issue? I am not saying all do but most do abide by the laws here. People in this country cry about free will, so what is the issue of people being muslim if they chose to be so?

Many of you might have heard about the revolutions in the arab world. These have bigger implications than you may think. Its disgusting how people of the west talk like they have some moral high ground. Have you not seen what our governments are doing? Or is the treatment of nations with imperialism and colonialism forced upon them okay now? The supposed moral west has encouraged dictators in the Arab world which forced poverty, torture and mistreatment of the people in these states. I ask you does this seem moral? but of course you won't care because it is not happening to you. Ask yourselves why this is? There are 2 simple answers, the west, mainly America and Britain gain huge oil and gas supplies for cheaper prices, also they agree with these dictators to ally with Israel. Whilst doing this they allow these dictators to control their countries corruptly and without spreading the wealth fairly and mistreat their people whilst forcing poverty upon them but the west turn a blind eye because they have gained what they want. Honestly does the west seem moral now? No of course but you could not have a care in the world. Muslims have been painted as evil by the west. The biggest example of this is terrorism, its like the definition did not exist before 9/11. The worst thing about this is the west mainly America trained Bin Laden and supplied him weapons in 1979 to fight against communism.

One of the biggest issues is Israel because the west and Britain mainly destroyed millions of peoples of lives to form the Zionist state which is Israel. Are you trying to tell me the Palestinians would not have a care in the world about this after their homes were removed by them by military force? You may not follow a religion but the west is dominantly Christian. We all know Islam is a fast growing religion and this has become a concern for many in the West. The only way to stop this growth is to dehumanise Muslims at every chance and make them out as all evil. Very similar to what the Nazis did with the Jews and the propaganda in Germany. Dehumanizing a set group of people allows actions upon them legal no matter the actions taken just like in Palestine.

Muslims believe in brother hood and that is why their is a huge anger about what is happening to Palestinians today. Its described as a slow genocide upon them where 1 child dies every week and a Palestinian is fatally being murdered everyday by Israel military. However, it is okay because it is a Muslim and he or she is evil according to the west even the children. Does this really seem like a moral state we live in? Isreal is a terrorist state. The military is constantly murdering, torturing people in Palestine. In fact the west have caused acts of terrorism in countries such as Iraq where civilians have mainly been killed. The definition of terrorism is: the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear. This is exactly what the West have done to millions of lives. But yet again you won't care because once again what they have done is okay because Muslims are evil.

However, there are big changes happening, these corrupt dictators are coming to an end because people have had enough. As Obama stated "the people have spoken". There will be no more cheap oil and Israel protection like before. The only way for all this to end is for the retreat of the west in Israel. The Palestinians want their home back after it was savagely taken from them by force.

People who call Islam evil and Qatar corrupt, how about you look at your own nation. Get out of your bubble created by the media and realize what is happening. You may wonder why I am talking about this, but the constant hypocritical abuse towards Qatar because they are muslim has gotten out of hand.

 

You make a good point, it's just that some of their laws seem really outdated.

 

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Thanks, I know I will get abuse for exposing what is happening but Its really annoying me how people have become so stupid and take everything as fact from papers like the sun!!!

 

Nice I will join that forum later on, after I complete some of my A2 history work

 

I was thinking you were George Galloway for one moment there because of your anti Israeli crap but then realised you're just a little school boy.

 

I am anti Israel acts, a Palestinian civilian dies everyday from acts committed by Israel military supported by the West. There is nothing right about this corrupt state. The way they were created was evil and corrupted, the acts they commit today are of a slow genocide nature. The people of Palestine deserve their home back. We all talk about peace but there will never be peace as long as that terrorist state still exists. Turkey tried to supply aid to the people of Gaza, the Israel military storm in a shoot everyone dead. They drop bombs on civilians. Call me a idiot all you like but there is a lot wrong with this.

 

Thanks I will. You are an idiot.

 

You are the idiot and have no facts to back up your statement about Israel.

 

I feel pretty uneasy when it comes to Israel - Palestine. Northern Ireland is full of hangers on who attempt to justify their own murdering antics by claiming that they have some sort of special bond with either of those countries. Murder is murder. You shouldn't try to justify it but plenty do.

 

Murder is evil at the highest order. The israel military claim they are killing Hamas and terrorist organisations but they are not. It is civilians who are being killed. The Israel state is wrong, the justification for form it because they lived there so many 100s of years ago is a farce against the Palestinian peoples. Until this state is given back the facts remain their will continue to be loss of lives and sadly its always the civilians who suffer.

 

All of us are pro democracy and the west stress they are to but why did they encourage dictators and why did they form partnerships with Mubark if they knew he was a dictator but as soon as the people had enough he called him a dictator. Why did he not support his closest Arab allay? Corruption will always exist these levels are out of hand.

 

Hamas and many Arab states want Israel destroyed and the last settler forced back into the Med. There cannot be peace between Israel and the Arab unless both sides including the Arabs change their mindset. By the way before you hark on further about the poor Muslims being demonised what of minority and human rights in Saudi Arabia etc?

 

Egypt had a peaceful, democratic resolution this week, didn't they? Nolhman, you can paint the Palestinians in as favourable a light as you wish but they are part of a movement to wipe out all opposition. One country after another are falling like dominos to this movement.

As I said earlier, I hate seeing people in my own country taking either side but at the same time, I can't just sit back and let you say the Palestine are innocent victims in all this. Next you'll be saying Egypt had it coming.

 

Constrcrepe, There is a world wide human rights law set by the United Nations but its interesting how they are never applied. The USA and west want it to stay how it is, they get cheap oil and have agreements over Israel. Egypt was the jewel of the arab world. They had great relations with the west and supplied gas at a very low rate similar to indian children making clothes for gap. 40% of people in arab countries live below the poverty line because their exports were going to the west for very cheap prices.

The people have spoken in these nations, Jordan, Algeria, Libya, Yemen, Tunisia and of course Egypt. They are trying to get a better life. I can promise you right now, when these dictators leave their lands and democracy is installed without Western intervention. The people in these countries will be much, much richer and stay in their home lands.

As for Israel, how do you expect peace? Its impossible and never will happen because of the way it was formed, peace is only possible if its given back to the people who lost their homes. It won't happen though but the jewel of the arab world will no longer support Israel like before.

 

The people in those nations will never see true democracy and will fall into line amongst a Muslim apartheid, whether they like it or not. That's how it works and that's how it will continue to work.

 

Its the people who decide and democracy will be installed in terms of a voting system and electing their leader. The people in these nations are happy about Islam being apart of their lives because they are Muslim. They are just tired of their resources going to the West for such cheap prices and dictators running their countries with support from the west. They no longer want to live in poverty when they have the chance to be more affluent. Your ideology about religion does not fit theirs so it does not matter to them. They no longer want western intervention in their home lands as its their home land.

 

The regime they will live under is far from democratic. As someone who thinks religion is a load of bollocks, I don't like to see any country being governed on the basis of religion but if democracy says that's the way to go, fair enough. There are a lot of Islam states where democracy is a foreign concept in its truest sense though.

 

Merry you may not believe in religion but Christianity dominates the western ideology. The way you live is based on Christianity, the laws we abide by are based on the 10 commandments, the way we think and marriage springs from religion. You may not like it but its true and it is what has helped form the western world. The pope is still a massive world wide figure as well. Everything springs from religion and Christians view non- Christians as infidel and are against homosexuals. These same things with Islam apply as like Judaism those 3 religions are very similar and share similar profits.

 

I am not saying its right or wrong as who am I to judge but if the people in the arab world are happy to muslim where is the issue? Its there free will and they should do as the pose. All they want is the western world to stop interfering with their politics. They just want to vote for THEIR leaders. Some laws won't make you happy but YOU are not going to live their. The people living their as a majority are happy with these laws.