In terms of defense, there isnt to much between the teams. We havent been humped and they havent lost. The simple difference is they have 4 strikers they can rotate and utilise, we have one on loan striker and 2 lads Bruce doesnt seem to want to play after paying 11m for them. Their midfield play a much more expansive game and are allowed to express themselves whilst ours are stifled by an over cautious tit **** of a manager. They play 4-4-2 and play to their strengths and we dont. Is there mucg difference in the squads? No. Is there much difference in the management of each team. Totally. If Pardew was picking our team, I would bet my house on it (especially at home) he would pick 2 strikers and one of them wouldnt be Sess. If we just got rid of this clown of a manager and brought in someone that can re-organise our existing squad, I think we could turn this season round in an instance. Even I could pick a better 11 from our existing squad than the big fat geordie twat has so far. Mig O Shea, Brown, Laing, Bardsley Vaughan Larsson, Sessegnon, Richardson Wickham, Bendtner Subs: Westwood, Turner, Elmo, Colback, Gardener, Ji, Catts
I agree. Just to clarify, I'm talking about the starting 11 here. Newcastle have a small squad and the depth is poor. Mind you, we do have some good cover in places. HBA can come in for any injured striker, Marveaux is available on the wings (could be better than Jonas and Obertan) and we have players like Gosling in the CM spots. Not great, but good enough. Our defensive cover is poor though. Williamson doesn't cut it. We need some new fullbacks and CB's. I would say players like Cabaye, Tiote, Coloccini and co can adapt to any changes. However, my point is that with the case of partnerships, the sum is greater than the two parts. Cabaye and Tiote are top class players, but they combine to form an even greater duo. If Tiote got injured, then Cabaye and Guthrie wouldn't be as good purely because Guthrie isn't as good, and Cabaye can't afford to carry him. But yeah, you're right to a degree. Any team of real world class players can do pretty much anything. The sheer quality of the 11 individual players does the job even if they don't work particularly well as a team. Hold your horses there champ. He's a good player, one of your better players, but he isn't that good. He gets himself a canny number of goals, but that doesn't make a winger. It reminds me of everyone saying that we were ****ed when Nolan was sold because he was "one of our best players". No he wasn't. He scored a lot of goals, yes, but his CM play was ultimately quite poor. There was no way on this earth we could have put together a good passing game with him in the side. Not enough pace, not enough accuracy and not clever enough. Not sure who Laing is, but definitely a better side that, I agree. I'd put Dong in instead of Wickham for now though as the guy actually looks decent and looks like he could bag a few. Wickham needs more time.
interesting you put in laing in the first team never had the chance to watch him in person or on the telly because of location. i've heard/read good things but is he the real deal. a 'modern' center back, or so he has been described. could really do with a defender that can actually pass the ball
Turner is about as mobile as a council skip and about as effective. Laing is young and a bit wet behind the ears but as we saw with Johnny Evans when he came here as a 19 year old, if you can play your good enough. What I've seen of the kid he looks like a player but again, fat **** has built him up and given him a sniff of the first team, teased him about his plans for his future, then totally booted him out of the scene just to piss him off. Quality management - NOT.
Sorry but remember the amount of mackems at the start of the season telling us about second season syndrome and how their team were much better equipped to fare in the Premier League and all that? How we lacked grit and experience and how we would struggle to find goals? How do they feel at this very moment? Honest question. Not going to point fingers or name names though as I'm not in the mood for another conflict , it's been quite peaceful in the last few weeks , hasn't it?
Not the point I was making, its about gtting the best out of the player on the pitch, encouraging, in the dressing room he may have torn a strip of Simpson, on the pitch he tried to encourage.
sorry, its hard to see the funny side right now but we move on, it can be a right bastard of a hobby being a Northeast footy fan.
Sorry I may have come across a bit sharp there, it was supposed to be me saying I was joking in a cheery sort of way, a smiley may have helped. The person who invents tone of voice in text will make a fortune On the subject of following one of the NE clubs well it just seems to come with the territory doesnt it. Been envious of Sunderland of the past few seasons as they seemed to be mounting a credible threat to the top 8 with Newcastle floundering somewhat. Few years later roles seem to have been very much reversed. With these two clubs the fortunes can change so quickly. All it takes is an unexpectedly successful managerial appointment (N,castle) or a big player wanting out (Bent) and things can turn so quickly. Im enjoying Newcastle's season so far but only for the moment, everyone has experienced too much to lay any serious expectations on it. It can all change so quickly as we know (e.g. Mike Ashley being Mike Ashley and rocking the boat for the hell of it) and a decent managerial replacement for Bruce. Chin up, 8 games in 30 left and 90 points to play for. With that many points to play for 10 points is not an overly large gap between the both of us and for that reason I will refrain from making any bold predictions as to who will finish above who. The rollercoaster must continue
Then why are you looking for it, p.s remember a lot of skunks ready to boycott Sid James when Chris was sacked, short memory retention eh son
My honest opinion for a team if we combined would be: Gordon O'Shea(however **** he's been)Brown Collocini Santon/Bardsley Larsson Tiote Cabaye Jonas Sess Ba Manager: Pardew Owner: Short I'd have included Bendtner but he's not ours and won't be IMO Maybe a bit bias, but that would be my team. And I dont know too much about some of Newcastle's players.
I perhaps agree. However: - I'd argue that Ben Arfa is one of our best players, but just not match fit yet. However, when he is then I'd go for Sess on the wing in place of Larsson and Ben Arfa in the hole, makes use of both players. - Brown is a good player but I'm not sure what would happen if the S Taylor and Colo partnership was broken up as it's absolutely rock solid and it's probably carrying our two poor full backs to give us the joint best defence in the league so far. - Gordon is a top keeper but Krul, in his current form, is bloody brilliant. Apart from that, it does highlight what I believe to be our poorest positions. Our wingers and our full backs. Everything else is great. If I were to take any Sunderland players for our team: ----------------Krul---------------- Brown --- Saylor --- Colo --- Santon/O'Shea? Sess --- Cabaye --- Tiote --- Jonas ---------------Ben Arfa------------- -----------------Ba---------------- That's a comfortable top 6 starting 11 imo.
Haven't seen much of HBA to know too how good he's been. I think Colo and Brown would be a good partnership tbh. I like Larsson and what he brings so would be good to have him.
Larsson is good, but imo Sessegnon could be a much better winger, so Larsson would essentially be the lesser of two good options. Just imagine Sessegnon and Jonas flying down both wings. Colo and Brown might be a great partnership. I honestly have no idea.
When you look at it, the Sunderland squad is not bad at all, but Bruce hasnt got a ****ing clue. Why get such an effective player as Larsson is at crossing the ball and put him on the wrong side to accommodate Elmohamady, who whenever I watch him offers very little.
