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Patrice Evra accuses Suarez of making racist remarks

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Alan, Oct 15, 2011.

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  1. suarezlfc

    suarezlfc Active Member

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    The thing is though, a lot of people don't know the history of the word, just that it's a bad word. If they were both swearing at each other in equal measure, it doesn't seem fair, in that particular context, that one player faces a massive charge of racism because of one word.
     
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  2. suarezlfc

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    What the ****? How do the experiences of 'many players' relate to yourself?

    1. You've never played in a World Cup, nor will you.
    2. You have no perspective of what it's like to play for your country.
    3. Loads of players every season handle a ball to prevent a goal. Larsson did it for Sunderland against Newcastle. And that's a league game.
    4. You're saying that you'd rather your country go out of a tournament than prevent the ball going into the net illegally? If Rooney had done it and England had got to the semis, you'd have no problem with it. Nor would I, or indeed do I.

    Players lie to win throw-ins and free-kicks numerous times a game. That's also cheating.

    But if you don't agree, either ignore all of the above, or misinterpret it to suit your own argument. I know you'll do one of the two.
     
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  3. King Shergar

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    It has to be said both players contraversial characters, I'm a United fan, but I can see why Evra could wind up the opposition. He's outspoken to the press, I remember when he constantly ran down Arsenal to the press, which caused alot of issues between Arsenal players and himself when we played them. That's why I do believe that what he is saying is true, he does get on the nerves of opponents, so that gives Suarez a motive to want to wind him up back.

    Suarez is also a highly controversial character, with his cheating in the world cup, and his blatant diving and play acting at Ajax, and he has continued doing it since joining Liverpool. His blatant cheating makes me believe he is of bad character, and lacks morales. So would it suprise me if was a racist aswell? Not at all.

    I doubt this will get proved as it's one mans word against another, but with the zero tolerance of racism in English football, then it would be interesting to see how Suarez is delt with, if found guilty, I imagine he could get a lengthy ban.

    On the racist terms point. 2 friends may call one another a racist term, though they are saying it to one another as friends, just messing around. I know for a fact alot of the black hip hop rappers use the word. I think it only becomes racist when the word is said with intent. It's like one of your mates may call you stupid, and you will take it as a laugh, but if someone in the street that you didn't know came up to you and called you stupid, you aren't going to see it as a joke :biggrin:
     
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  4. King Shergar

    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    I also must add that Suarez's cheating is rubbing off on his fellow Liverpool players, I've never known either Charlie Adam or Stuart Downing to dive :biggrin:
     
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    <doh>
     
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  6. Swarbs

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    I see what you're saying, but then as I said above racism is generally accepted to be worse than simple swearing or abuse. Whether that's right or wrong, the "kick racism out of football campaign" is pretty high profile, so any player who racially abuses another has to be aware of the sanctions they are likely to face.

    That said, even if Suarez is found guilty I doubt he'll get a huge ban. Players and managers generally get off quite lightly for it - Mark Wright got a four match ban for racist abuse in 2001 and Nenad Jestrovic got a three match ban after being sent off for racially abusing Sissoko in 2006. That's pretty lenient when you consider that fans can be given lifetime banning orders for being racist.
     
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  7. MUFCOK

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    Including Uruguay.
     
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    i could tell when i was watching the match that suarez must of really rubed patrice the wrong way because rarely does patrice react in the way he did normally he just shakes hands, smiles and gets on with things.
     
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    Wonder if KPR still thinks Suarez is a good 'face' for Liverpool?!

    Agree with Swarbs, I suspect the F.A will bottle any decision either way but even though I dislike both players, I really can't see why Evra would make it up.

    Should be 5 game ban minimum against either player.
     
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  10. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    In regards to a striker making a goal line clearance I can say NO, No I wouldnt do it. I am not a cheat like Suarez. Most decent people wouldnt do it either.
     
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  11. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Suarez history will be taken into account should he be found guilty.

    Its unlikely to be a 3,4 or 5 game ban if and its a big if, hes found guilty.

    This guys got a bad record when it comes to disciplinary. If he wasnt a footballer he would at least have an Asbo ( if he was british )
     
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    Terrible....

    TERRIBLE

    Response.

    Worst post of the day, well done.
     
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  13. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    ????

    Thick ****.

    Go do some history before making stupid stupid remarks.
     
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    Why is it? Your post that prompted the reply was just as pointless. A stupid point deserves a stupid response.
     
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  15. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Explain how saying Suarez' history is likely to have an impact on his punishment is a stupid point in a thread about Suarez being accused of making racist remarks?

    Please, explain that one for me.

    Oh and while you are at it, explain what Ravel Morrison has to do with this case.

    Thanks.
     
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    People who are offended by a man swearing down a camera are pathetic and need to get over themselves.
     
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  17. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    I challenge any poster who thinks its just a word top go to an area thats got a large black community and shout it out.

    Go on.

    RIP btw those that do.

    Morons, how can people be that thick in 2011?
     
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  18. MUFCOK

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    They have ****ers for parents?
     
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  19. suarezlfc

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    You said Suarez's history is likely to have an impact, which firstly is bollocks. He's served bans for previous indiscipline, and those cases bear no relation to this one. They're COMPLETELY separate issues. What the **** does a handball have to do with being racist?

    Secondly, a footballer CAN get an ASBO. They have a public/social life too. So that's another bollocks argument on your part.

    Thirdly, the point I said was stupid was the ASBO one. So see above. The history point is relevant, but still untrue.

    Ravel Morison has as much to do with this as an ASBO for Suarez does.
     
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  20. Swarbs

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    You're a dickhead.

    Don't be offended...it's just a word...
     
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