Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

If I was 20 years into my role and I still haven’t created a strategy to deal with the 2 year international tournament cycle disruption or/and If I haven’t recognised the importance of a certain role at my organisation therefore ignored it(managerial role) or if I have a problem dealing with recruitment for my organisation in order to maintain standards at the very least then I think it points towards being out of ones depth in ones role.

 

these factors have affected everyone so it’s no excuse for me. Every club still doing business, whatever business. I’m quite sick of this pandemic excuse like we were the only ones affected. However we make the loudest noises about it because we have an owner who will cling onto absolutely anything in order to justify the lack of spending and generally speaking, a fan base who take his word as gospel, I’m glad the tide is changing somewhat.

Btw, Whilst the rest of the clubs may be suffering, we shouldn’t be because Levy went 2 years just before the pandemic struck, without spending a penny on the team. Stadium excuse isn’t a good enough excuse for me, either Levy didn’t factor that in in which case he’s not very good at his job is he? Or he doesn’t care and just milks whatever excuse comes his way and snakes his way through a situation knowing the fans gullibility.

excuse after excuse…not good enough.

 

Good morning what a lovely day.

The usual complaints during the transfer windows. Business is slow right across the PL, what would you expect in the current world situation? A number of clubs have not made any signings so Spurs are little different. Much easier to make signings if you are Norwich or Brighton than it is for Spurs or Everton for example. We are looking at a much smaller pool of players who will probably require high transfer fees. Surely by now you should get this! Instead of looking forward to a new season with a new manager many seem to live in a world of misery with unrealistic expectations.
I watch football to be entertained if I was as unhappy as some of you appear to be I really would find another sport to follow.

Enjoy your day.

 

Business is slow though, like Spurf has said. There haven’t been many major moves yet, least of all for teams who changed manager. Konate to Liverpool and Sancho to United are the only big moves so far and the latter isn’t even fully completed yet. Leicester have made a couple of smart moves but they’re pretty much the gold standard in the league right now in terms of doing very sensible business. Emulating that would be a good start.

Personally I’ll start to get concerned if we don’t see some movement at Spurs this week. If players arrive this week then they’ll still have a couple of preseason games to start to get what Nuno wants, and a few weeks to bed into the environment.

I do think it increasingly looks like there will be less movement than we wanted to see though, particularly in terms of outgoings. It’s looking like Foyth, Aurier, Toby definitely leaving, and it seems like we’re open to selling Dave. Further up the pitch is anyone’s guess. But not quite the clearout we envisaged.

 

Why do we always have to wait for some other club of bigger or equal pedigree to start buying players before we here at Spurs consider doing what is essential for us? I don’t think business is slow, I can name enough transfers that have been completed this summer already to suggest that business is definitely happening.

We are not in the same boat as say for example United/Liverpool, our urgency to regain ground to the top is somewhat more urgent than theirs since we are much further away than them therefore we should be running harder and faster but oh I just remembered, we’ve got a property developer in charge of our club.

 

I agree we should be moving faster ideally and that we can’t compare to United or Liverpool (or Chelsea or City for that matter). But like I said, right now I’m looking at a list of transfers in/out of PL clubs this summer so far and aside from Leicester I can’t see anything significant from a comparable club. Leicester are the gold standard, they have a settled manager and one of the best recruitment outfits in the country. We should be looking to emulate and surpass them to give us a competitive edge against teams with more outright resource. But we’re not there right now because we’ve just overhauled the whole structure of the footballing side of the club.

But because loads of clubs are sitting on their hands and Levy isn’t chairman of all of them, I assume there must be other factors, even though I think the protracted appointments of Nuno (and Paratici) have harmed us, even if they themselves were drawn out thanks to reasons often beyond our control.

 

I think you are misinterpreting malcontent for fear. If only this window was the exception due to Corona and the Euros rather than the norm. Sadly not.

We have a long and comical history of dragging our feet in the transfer window, often concluding major deals well after the start of the season. Poch spoke out openly against it on more than one occasion, and he was 100% right. And while it is true that a number of PL teams are yet to make a move, many of the teams we should be immediately worried about - i.e. Liverpool, United, Leicester, Arsenal and Villa - have all made moves.

We entered this window off the back of Levy's usual bluster. Made a pig's ear out of our manager search and so far have done zilch to solve the glaring problems with the squad. We even brought in a DOF to assist with both projects but so far, his performance has to be categorised as severely wanting.

And so, as usual, we risk shooting ourselves in the foot by leaving too much until too late. Unless there is an avalanche of activity over the next fortnight, Nuno will barely have any time to integrate new signings and we will suffer for it as the season progresses - same as we have done pretty much every year since as far back as I can remember.

My fear regarding Nuno is that he isn't a big enough name to stand up and demand change. A Conte or a Nagelsmann have enough credit in the bank to do so. So does a Poch or even a ten Hag.

But then our managerial search suddenly shifted to a bunch of relative nobodies: Fonseca, Gattuso and Nuno. And while I am not against his arrival per se, it should be obvious that saying "we spent a lot last summer and are strapped for cash. You'll only be able to spend what you sell. Try to make the most of what you have" will be met with a totally different response by a manager who is all starry eyed at the opportunity to manage a global brand having achieved nothing to warrant the privilege, than it would from a manager who either wins league titles wherever he goes or one coveted by the biggest teams in football.

There is every danger that Nuno isn't big enough to stand up to Levy's bullshit. And yes, I say bullshit because it is the same every single time we need to act quickly and decisively. Every single time. From the stupidly protracted sale of Gareth Bale to bringing in key players 2 or 3 games after the season had kicked off, to clinging on to players like Eriksen, Rose and Dier until their value had plummeted to next to nothing.

Daniel Levy is the footballing king of procrastination. Yes, business is slow across the PL (I actually don't think it is tbh but I will humour the point). But very few PL teams are in a state of disarray and underachievement such as we are. In fact, four teams whose season last year can rival ours in terms of disappointment - Arsenal, Pool, United and Leicester - have all acted decisively. Very few PL teams have chairmen who wrote a powerful, seemingly sincere open letter before season's end expressing remorse over results and promising a renewed commitment to the club's "DNA".

Right now, 2 plus months since that letter was penned, it appears it was meant to be satirical.

 

Look, I agree with a lot of your points here, but I wouldn’t even want to try and assess Paratici’s effectiveness yet. He’s officially been in the job 19 days, but even if you grant that he was unofficially working on Spurs for a month and a half or so, most of the players have been away during that time and the kind of overhaul we all want to see, not to mention the fact that he’s in a brand new role at the club so there is all kinds of organisational stuff to sort out there, means that change takes longer than this. It’s frustrating but not perhaps surprising.

Your point about Nuno not having the clout to stand up to Levy is an interesting one but I assume under the new structure that this is the kind of thing Paratici is there for - he has an excellent track record and Levy says he respects him. If Nuno and Paratici decide a player needs to go and Levy still won’t pay heed to that then there’s a serious problem and what many of us have suspected for a long time, will be very apparent.

 

On the plus side, Kane leaving rumours appear to have gone quiet

 

With respect Spurf, that's completely facile and ridiculous. You're not happy with this government...why don't you go and live abroad?

This is MY football club...it was MY club before Daniel Levy turned up and it will be MY club long after he's left.

I'm perfectly happy...with my decision to what I can to bring about Levy's departure as soon as possible. He needs to go and until he does, we'll perform worse with him than we do without...so, he has to go.....why not just respect that genuinely held view of someone who loves this club?

 

i never thought about that as an argument. I'm going to steal that from now on

 

Andy Carroll's a free agent

So now that we've identified the floor of the transfer window...

 

Part of me now thinks there was never going to be the clear out or incomings we had hoped for or thought we needed.
There’s been long lists of players ins/outs that we’ve all compiled on here at some point, and we hoped the director of football would be the person to sort that out. But I think the club always had a different plan. Any maybe that’s why Daniel was able to take so long in appointing a manager. - because they aren’t going to need time to bed in 7,8,9 players.
I’m starting to wonder if Paratici’s brief from Daniel was to look at who we signed literally only a year ago, combined with mourinho’s lack of man management with those players in order to establish a way of getting the most out of them rather than making more wholesale changes in such a small window of opportunity.
trying to shift 3 or 4 and bring in the same is ultimately far more realistic and achievable.
This is also probably why a coach like Nuno was such a good fit for them. He’ll work with what he’s given and sees this as a massive opportunity, therefore not upsetting the apple cart.

The only players I don’t think will be here next season are Aurier, Sissoko, Alderwiereld and possibly sanchez.

 

So you're saying you're not interested in signing Sissoko?

 

With respect Spurf, that's completely facile and ridiculous. You're not happy with this government...why don't you go and live abroad?

This is MY football club...it was MY club before Daniel Levy turned up and it will be MY club long after he's left.

I'm perfectly happy...with my decision to what I can to bring about Levy's departure as soon as possible. He needs to go and until he does, we'll perform worse with him than we do without...so, he has to go.....why not just respect that genuinely held view of someone who loves this club?[/QUOTE]
He did. Scotland!

 

I can also confirm that Spurlock is one of the "gaping flaws in our squad"" .

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Really !!??
That remark construct (if you don't X then why don't you do Y then ?? ) is time-honoured.

 

Not quite a separate country, but he is working on it!

 

Unfortunately for Spurf and about 5 million others, he's not escaped and is still part of the United Kingdom and being governed by a bunch of wrongly, self-satisfied half-wits.