Phil Foden could be a generational talent, that dross you listed above were never going to cut it at Spurs and I’ll be surprised if any make it at a top top club. Yeah Foden could have gone to a side where he would be playing more often but playing 10-20 games for Man City at an elite level in CL and big PL games is more beneficial than 30-40 for a relegation threatened side.
Madueke's been strongly linked with a move to Dortmund to fill the Sancho-shaped gap in their squad, while Edwards is reportedly set to move to Sporting Lisbon But other than that...
Let’s just see how their careers stack up to Phil Foden in a few years time. Anyway my original point (we’ve got sidetracked) Foden did the right thing by being patient (if you can even call it that) by remaining at City and winning every domestic title by the age of 20 and learning from legends like David Silva, Aguero and greats like De Bruyne rather than go on loan to a Burnley where he would have won nothing but possibly have played more games.
And the question is whether he would be as patient if he was at, say, Newcastle or Crystal Palace And the reason why those are just two clubs I thought of in comparison
Being 19 and kept out of the team by David Silva in a side that wins the league most years or not being able to make it into the midfield of two mid table sides is just a tad different wouldn’t you agree?
No, it isn't After all, remember three seasons ago where Edwards, Shashoua, Georgiou and Sterling all demanded loans because training alongside Kane, Son, Dembele etc etc wasn't getting them the minutes, whereas before our loan policy was akin to Chelsea's where we loaned youngsters to get their values up such as Ogilvie Now, when have we heard any of the Sheikh Mansour Team's academy Elite Development Squad™ angling for loans due to lack of playing time? Because realistically we should have, as there's 42 players in that squad (in comparison ours has 19 plus various U18s who move up like Scarlett and Devine surely will this season) and we're hardly outliers in that regard as Man Utd have 20 in their U23s, Southampton 21, Chelsea 28 etc etc So why are there so many players content to sit in their academy? Well, I can think of one obvious incentive...
City had 42 players out on loan last season, including a number of young full internationals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_Manchester_City_F.C._season#Loans_out If they keep someone back and tell them they're going to be involved, then it's probably true.
You're comparing Phil Foden to Spurs academy prospects who didn’t even get near the first team? Foden has been around the city first squad and playing here and there for the last 3-4 years, he’s won 10 trophies with them. In the last two seasons he’s played nearly 90 games for them (not enough according to some people). Pep said in 2017 that Foden was one of the most talented youngsters he had ever seen. For the third and final time, it’s not comparable.
Your argument is that Foden gets to train with The Sheikh Mansour team's regulars Mine is that Marcus Edwards, Jack Roles, Elliot Thorpe, Anthony Georgiou, George Marsh and Kazaiah Sterling got to do the exact same thing with our first team, yet they were far more vocal in demanding first team football in spite training with our first team for years and (in the cases of Edwards, Georgiou, Marsh and Sterling) making their first team debuts, in some cases in the Champions league It's almost as if there's an additional qualifier in there somewhere
He did more than just train, he’s played more and more games every year. We’ll leave it there as we will never agree on this.
The exact same thing can be said about Japhet Tanganga And this leads to the second issue: numerous posters here and elsewhere criticise Poch for his policy of saying youngsters are there to train (although let's ignore the r/coys contingent thinking Poch never played young players, as if Dele was a 32 year old journeyman...) with them barely playing, with Kyle Walker-Petersand Marcus Edwards being the usual examples held up as players who trained with the first team for a couple of seasons And yet here we are saying how great Fraudiola is for not loaning out Foden and instead holding onto him and drip-feeding him into the first team...which is what Poch did with Winks and was starting to do with Skipp, yet the complaint is that Skipp needed more games (indeed, KWP got just as many) and Winks' development stalled early in spite him getting regular football as if the ankle injuries never happened
Spurs featured on Radio 4's Gardeners Question Time. Talking about the organic sustainable kitchen garden Levy designed into the training facility.. It feeds the players and during the lockdown the local community. Levy, fan or not, you have to applaud his attention to detail.
