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Summer transfer rumours

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Washysafc, May 25, 2021.

  1. SAFC CLUD

    SAFC CLUD Well-Known Member

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    He wasnt even offered a contract which is encouraging
     
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  2. ChunkFTM

    ChunkFTM Well-Known Member

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    How do you know that?
     
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  3. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    if two schoolboys teams were having a match and picking who they wanted from their classmates one by one Wyke would always be the last chosen
     
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    Whilst I’m not bothered he’s not signing, using the McGeady stat again and saying he relied so heavily on him is utterly ridiculous. Mcgeady exceeded his assists record last season, so surely that means he’s going to struggle to make goals without Wyke? Otherwise the “relies on McGeady” thing is a redundant argument.

    Managers ex-managers, commentators , pundits, ex players have all said “these 1 touch finishes are fantastic goals” throughout the Euros. Why is it different for Wyke?

    What Wyke relied on was the ball being put in the right place. Centre forwards have relied on that since the dawn of football. Suddenly it’s a negative thing people literally usd as a stick to beat Wyke with!

    Truly not upset he’s gone as I think we already have better in Stewart, but come on, every player who scores a goal made by others is relying on the others.
     
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  5. Brainman

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    I think the point is that McGeady is sheer class for League One. He will create for whoever. Wyke relies on a delivery into the right area. He won’t get as many chances without McGeady’s brilliance.
    I don’t mind Wyke leaving. He doesn’t fit the profile and we definitely need goals spread around.
    I’m expecting total football next season. :1980_boogie_down:
     
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  6. Nordic

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    noone gives a **** do they. he's cashed in at Wigan - at least half a bar per season, who can blame a limited player not taking that option?
     
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  7. Washysafc

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    £1.5million over three years. Made for life and never played above third tier.
     
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  8. Nordic

    Nordic Well-Known Member

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    exactly mate. he's not gonna be too fussed about his goals bonus.
     
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  9. Southern A

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    Purely in terms of numbers, the way I see our first team squad make up is below. My point is that whilst we all want to see lots of signings and that we've lost lots of players, I do think more need to go or be loaned out for us to bring in as many as we want / need.

    Squad last half of last season ---> Replacement this season (from a squad perspective, not like for like)
    GK
    Burge ---> Burge
    Matthews --> Patterson / SPACE if loaned out
    Patterson --> Carney

    FB
    McLaughlin --> SPACE
    Hume --> SPACE
    Vokins --> SPACE

    CB
    Willis --> Younger / SPACE if loaned out
    Xhemajli --> Xhemajli
    Wright --> Wright
    Flanagan --> Flanagan
    Sanderson --> SPACE

    CM
    Leadbitter --> SPACE
    Power --> SPACE
    O'Nien --> O'Nien
    Winchester --> Winchester
    Scowen --> Neil

    AM
    Gooch --> Gooch
    McGeady --> McGeady
    Jones --> Embleton
    Maguire --> Hawkes / SPACE if loaned out
    Diamond --> Diamond

    FWD
    Wyke --> Grigg
    Stewart --> Stewart
    O'Brien --> O'Brien


    The squad above is obviously supplemented then by the U23s including the new lot just signed.
     
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  10. Southern A

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    I completely agree with you - I'm just offering the counter argument which the club is facing.
     
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  11. SAFC CLUD

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    From his brother, celtic never enquired either
     
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  12. Football Dinosaur

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    That's the old view imo. The new owner should be focused on promotion. We'll nit get that with burge and Obrien in side I can 100% say that.
     
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    3 years... not sure I'm too happy with that but good to get somebody through the door and he could be brilliant
     
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  15. Southern A

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    perhaps not as advanced as he suggested... personally I wouldn't like a flat 3 year deal for him without any break clauses. Would rather a 1 year contract which automatically extends by a year a couple of times if he makes 20 appearances for example

     
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    If that's correct and he's done the medical, surely it should show if he's up to playing 46 games a season if required, then I suppose it's down to the length of the contract the club want to offer
     
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  17. Football Dinosaur

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    It's like we've learned nothing from past dealings. It's early days of course and this isn't confirmed as 3 years but if true I'd be concerned moving forward
     
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  18. Southern A

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    The medical will show if he's fit enough now to play 46 games. It won't be able to show his mental capacity and pain threshold etc to play 46 games. And a lot of the criticism of him from Huddersfield fans has suggested he didn't have the best motivation to play.

    Will of course give him every opportunity and a fresh slate, and think he could be a great signing. I just don't want us tying ourselves into a long term deal for a player with his record.
     
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    they're really going for it. no idea how good this fella is but they're signing players all over the place
     
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  20. Football Dinosaur

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    Countless players have "passed" medicals here and been crocked fir months at a time. I'll judge after December but this sounds increasingly risky, especially listening to Huddersfield supporters.
     
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