I am backing out of this debate, I admit (before you shoot me down) that Schumacher is a dirty and ruthless racer at times. But I did not doubt for a second that Hamilton was pushing the limits of what is right and what is wrong, both me and Forza noticed this. It is a bit of a coincidence the BEEB and FIA did not notice this. Bye.
Some people like to see what isn't there. No shooting down to be done here. A forum is a place to debate.
Some people being those who are well-known to dislike Hamilton. Come on! Credit where credit's due. He put up a great defence today, stayed calm under immense pressure, duelled side by side without incident, did none of the things he's been criticised for recently... Inventing an incident is just about personal animosity towards Lewis, nothing more.
Yep, can't argue with the defensive performance he gave today, was quite similair to Seb at Barcelona.
In what way? Hamilton's defence against Vettel on the first lap was appalling, Webber couldn't get close enough with DRS - and when he did get close Hamilton moved twice!
Actually I was thinking the very same thing, they both had the exact same strength - critical traction out of the corner leading onto the longest straight.
First laps don't count. Nothing was wrong with Seb's start in Japan ( I also thought the same), so what did Hamilton do wrong on the opening lap? He gave Vettel just enough room to pass into turn 4 and no more. If he opened the door and capitulated you'd be crying out that he has lost his bottle and was 'scared off the road'.
Funny, that was in my mind too. It was very similar. It's also funny that neither the stewards nor the TV experts noticed this supposed illegal move.
This http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b016317j/Formula_1_2011_The_Korean_Grand_Prix/?t=64m12s Awful defending - he knew Vettel was there but didn't defend the inside line.
Lewis agrees with you on this one, Forza; he said so in his post-race interview. But I think you know perfectly well that people are praising his defence against Webber's faster Red Bull. I think you're letting your personal animosity towards Lewis cloud your judgement.
What do you mean Webber's "faster" Red Bull? The Mclaren have pretty much been the fastest in every session since Japan FP1. I think the Mclaren had the best package this weekend.
SO you no longer have a problem with the 'double move', you're going to pick something else out instead. But, if he had cut Vettel off, you;d be crying 'illegal move'. Can he do anything right in you eyes?
I think McLaren's downforce issues and acute understeer during the race have been well documented, Fred. Wow, the Hamophobes are out in force!
I just don't understand what it is with Lewis Hamilton. Any other driver would have only generated half a page of interest, but when it's Lewis Hamilton there comes a good 2 or 3 pages as everyone has something to say. The fact is he did well today and finished ahead of Webber and whatever it was that concerned many here didn't concern Webber, The FIA or Red Bull. Get over it and move on.
But the situation that McLaren can bring up is Schumacher did the same thing in Monza, but leaving room for the overtake wasn't an issue if you moved more than once. Schumacher was allowed to do it, so why not Lewis? These rules are ever changing, I dont even think the 2 move rule is the same anymore compared to the start of the season. It seems you are now allowed to make 2 moves if you are trying to go back on the racing line for the next corner for the best exit speed, nothing else. Giving the other car enough room to be able to make the overtake after the second move also seems to be another get out of detention pass.
