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Which wouldn't be the BBC

Just chuck them in at your nearest police station.

I'm pleased someone has raised the question today in the commons!

Surely the law would dictate the documents should be handed into the police, under the official secrets act?

Did the BBC pay money for these documents and various other questions need to be answered. Something stinks about this episode, I just find it rather odd, whoever found these doucments, thought, oh I must give these to a media organisation and none other than the BBC. I'm not buying it.

Maybe Bashir is on the case.

 

[Solid Air]

I'm pleased someone has raised the question today in the commons!

Surely the law would dictate the documents should be handed into the police, under the official secrets act?

Did the BBC pay money for these documents and various other questions need to be answered. Something stinks about this episode, I just find it rather odd, whoever found these doucments, thought, oh I must give these to a media organisation and none other than the BBC. I'm not buying it.

Maybe Bashir is on the case.

The logic for giving them to the media is thato therwise nowt changes as it will just go under the carpet though tbh with the MOD it doesn't seem to change as this sort of incident crops up every few years .

actually thinking about it they might as well have given them to plod as they would certainly have passed on the details to the media for examples see any high profile case .

 

[SaintsForTheWin]

I’m here to talk Covid, and some **** is spouting political bollocks.

estimates that 1 in 1000 infected people are dying of Covid, yet we’re still have restrictions

 

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The logic for giving them to the media is thato therwise nowt changes as it will just go under the carpet though tbh with the MOD it doesn't seem to change as this sort of incident crops up every few years .

actually thinking about it they might as well have given them to plod as they would certainly have passed on the details to the media for examples see any high profile case .

Makes no logic to me, whatever side of the fence you sit. Guy waiting to catch bus, finds top secret documents at bus stop.....must tell bbc....wtf?

Bit like the camera footage out of Whitehall, absolute security mess, at least some good will come of this, and thanks to Savid Javid it has, rip the fooking cameras out.

I still think the cops should be ripping Cummings gaff to shreds, I'm not sure why we treat our security so lightly, or accept it just because it scores points against the government. Well about time the full arm of the law came down on it.

I'm all for laughing at Hancock, but clearly security is too lax, regardless of what party is in office.

Just my view.

 

[Solid Air]

Makes no logic to me, whatever side of the fence you sit. Guy waiting to catch bus, finds top secret documents at bus stop.....must tell bbc....wtf?

Bit like the camera footage out of Whitehall, absolute security mess, at least some good will come of this, and thanks to Savid Javid it has, rip the fooking cameras out.

I still think the cops should be ripping Cummings gaff to shreds, I'm not sure why we treat our security so lightly, or accept it just because it scores points against the government. Well about time the full arm of the law came down on it.

I'm all for laughing at Hancock, but clearly security is too lax, regardless of what party is in office.

Just my view.

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The camera thing is just bollocks imo as i'm pretty sure it was a door check system rather than covering the room .

 

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The camera thing is just bollocks imo as i'm pretty sure it was a door check system rather than covering the room .

Why's it there, who has access to it, how secure is the data on it. None of that is bolloxs it's a breach of security because that disgusting rag the Sun got hold of it, that should be a worry for any government. Our government should be watertight on security and forty yes 40, MP's were wanting to know in the Commons today, wtf is going on.

 

[Solid Air]

Why's it there, who has access to it, how secure is the data on it. None of that is bolloxs it's a breach of security because that disgusting rag the Sun got hold of it, that should be a worry for any government. Our government should be watertight on security and forty yes 40, MP's were wanting to know in the Commons today, wtf is going on.

ah the leaking of the film is a different matter which will lead to sackings but the ****e about no cameras in our offices makes no sense .

 

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ah the leaking of the film is a different matter which will lead to sackings but the ****e about no cameras in our offices makes no sense .

Any secure premises will tell you, part of setting up cameras is to ensure you are not intruding on people's privacy while they are working. Hence why they are focused on the doors and not across the office in the main, with the exception of maybe cashiers at banks. Even so, the data that is being recorded should be protected and only accessed by people with the responsibility of the security and privacy of data on that building.

However, this is Whitehall, so my question would be, why was someone reviewing that camera? Most cameras are only reviewed in the event of a reported incident. So what was the camera reviewer looking for.....hmmm.

 

[Edelman]

Any secure premises will tell you, part of setting up cameras is to ensure you are not intruding on people's privacy while they are working. Hence why they are focused on the doors and not across the office in the main, with the exception of maybe cashiers at banks. Even so, the data that is being recorded should be protected and only accessed by people with the responsibility of the security and privacy of data on that building.

However, this is Whitehall, so my question would be, why was someone reveiwing that camera? Most cameras are only reviewed in the event of a reported incident. So what was the camera reviewer looking for.....hmmm.

I wasnt very well liked within the party by all accounts so obvs could be a set up.
I'm sure he can tap up his pub landlord buddy for a few quid for starters

 

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I wasnt very well liked within the party by all accounts so obvs could be a set up.
I'm sure he can tap up his pub landlord buddy for a few quid for starters

I don't really care about that tosser being set up tbph. It's just a completely seperate point i'm trying to make.

 

[Solid Air]

Any secure premises will tell you, part of setting up cameras is to ensure you are not intruding on people's privacy while they are working. Hence why they are focused on the doors and not across the office in the main, with the exception of maybe cashiers at banks. Even so, the data that is being recorded should be protected and only accessed by people with the responsibility of the security and privacy of data on that building.

However, this is Whitehall, so my question would be, why was someone reviewing that camera? Most cameras are only reviewed in the event of a reported incident. So what was the camera reviewer looking for.....hmmm.

well in your average Govt dept the CCTV is part of the outsourcing so G4S etc however even then departmental staff with a plausible reason can normally get to view it ,

 

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well in your average Govt dept the CCTV is part of the outsourcing so G4S etc however even then departmental staff with a plausible reason can normally get to view it ,

Yeah I do agree, the access to such security systems has got seriously lax. Which just highlights worrying trends, especially as our every movement gets monitored these days.

It's a bit like how I imagine street security is viewed via some council offices, by some overweight grubby middle aged man, who wouldn't go amiss of being a fan of Jimmy Saville.

If this goes on in Whitehall, heaven help the rest of us.

 

[Edelman]

Yeah I do agree, the access to such security systems has got seriously lax. Which just highlights worrying trends, especially as our every movement gets monitored these days.

It's a bit like how I imagine street security is viewed via some council offices, by some overweight grubby middle aged man, who wouldn't go amiss of being a fan of Jimmy Saville.

If this goes on in Whitehall, heaven help the rest of us.

We are in the age with technology where every movement can be monitored so this is the normal low.

 

[Diego]

I'm pleased someone has raised the question today in the commons!

Surely the law would dictate the documents should be handed into the police, under the official secrets act?

Did the BBC pay money for these documents and various other questions need to be answered. Something stinks about this episode, I just find it rather odd, whoever found these doucments, thought, oh I must give these to a media organisation and none other than the BBC. I'm not buying it.

Maybe Bashir is on the case.

These sort of "incidents" happen often, it stinks that the one that made national headlines just happens to be the one where somebody accidentally left secret documents about the planned exercise at a bus stop where it could be found and handed to the BBC.

Someone is playing games and should (would in most countries) get a poisoned umbrella to the leg.

 

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These sort of "incidents" happen often, it stinks that the one that made national headlines just happens to be the one where somebody accidentally left secret documents about the planned exercise at a bus stop where it could be found and handed to the BBC.

Someone is playing games and should (would in most countries) get a poisoned umbrella to the leg.

From a tongue in cheek point of view it's like espionage being played out, and I have a simple answer to situations like that, find and shoot the messenger.

I got no time for Hancock, so it's all good, he has to be one of the most insincere mps in politics, and I'm not commenting on his affair. I always feel he's laughing at you, and I want to ask what he finds funny. I can't stand Kay Burley but she picked him up on it once in an interview.

So anyway the creep is gone and now we need to deal with the messenger, good slap wouldn't go amiss.

 

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From a tongue in cheek point of view it's like espionage being played out, and I have a simple answer to situations like that, find and shoot the messenger.

I got no time for Hancock, so it's all good, he has to be one of the most insincere mps in politics, and I'm not commenting on his affair. I always feel he's laughing at you, and I want to ask what he finds funny. I can't stand Kay Burley but she picked him up on it once in an interview.

So anyway the creep is gone and now we need to deal with the messenger, good slap wouldn't go amiss.

She's a right hoot that daft cow.

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She's a right hoot that daft cow.

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I struggle to watch any of her stuff. She comes across so patronising. She has to be my most hated tv presenter/reporter. SKY have some damn good reporters, especially in war zones, who I have a lot of respect for, but Burley thinks she's great for some reason doing the most live tv, yeah right standing around in a TV studio, while other reporters are dodging bullets and bombs.

 

[Saf]

I struggle to watch any of her stuff. She comes across so patronising. She has to be my most hated tv presenter/reporter. SKY have some damn good reporters, especially in war zones, who I have a lot of respect for, but Burley thinks she's great for some reason doing the most live tv, yeah right standing around in a TV studio, while other reporters are dodging bullets and bombs.

Exactly. She's a vile, tactless, attention seeking cow.

I can remember her during the Roaul Moat incident at Rothbury. Shoving her microphone in front of some old dears face who was just out picking her meds up and must have been in her 80's. She asked the old lady if she was scared with what was happening to which the old lady replied she'd been through a lot in life and was just getting on with it. Not happy with that, Kay then replied, 'You haven't had anybody running around here with a loaded shotgun before though, have you?'

 

[aberdude]

For the tory boys mams

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/gp-with-the-courage-to-say-no-to-vaccines/

 

[aberdude]

Thugs....looks like the lads on a regular weekend piss up imo

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/video/chris-whitty-grabbed-thugs-london-063603406.html