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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. Steelmonkey

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    Good Evening Folks,

    once in a while I keep following this thread and I am amused to learn, that most of you still believe the virus narrative. Well, I will get thrown out after that post anyway so I will have to be as precise as possible in a single post.

    For once you should understand that they will keep on creating new variants as their goal always has been to get everyone vaccinated until the end 2022 (EU roadmap set up a long time ago which still applies for the UK). Their goal is to get us into ID2020 in order to achieve total control via contineous vaccinations (2 times a year) . They need those digital passports for a start and will replace it by implanting chips into your body. This is called Transhumanism and a long planned goal by the Fabian Society and others.

    Since you won´t believe a word I am saying and still do not seem to comprehend that this is "The Great Reset" that I had talked about almost a year ago I will emphasize a few predictions for the very near future.

    - We will never return to the "old" normal before Covid, the "new" normal is now
    - We will see new fascism (it has never gone) under the "rainbow" colours - not brown (Hitler) anymore.
    - We will see climate lockdowns now most probably starting in late autumn (November latest)
    - We will face a blackout in most of Europe in autumn

    Freedom is vanshing swiftly and you will see people not being vaccinated will be treated like the Jews in 1933 - 1945, a new apartheid deviding the society even more.

    There is loads more to happen very soon. Mark my words no matter if you like it or not. Western society is dying.

    Rgds - TTCK (formerly known as BH).

    PS: Germany will win on penalties of course
     
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    There's millions of these ****sock memes floating about - be a shame not to share them

    IMG-20210625-WA0021.jpg

    Anyone get the feeling he's been stitched up, and she's played him for a fool?
     
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    Thank you for playing 'The Internet'. You've landed on Godwin's Law. Please go straight to jail, do not pass Go and do not collect £200.
     
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    Interesting comment from a representative of the senior civil servants union this morning, noting that, at top levels, civil servants (including ‘non executive directors’) will discuss the performance of the minister they work for. It is of course a part of their job, necessary to avoid an ignorant politician like Handcock making stupid decisions without having been advised properly. He now assumes that all such discussions about Handcock* will have been fed back to him by Coladangelo. This could have an impact on people’s careers. Of course, had the affair been public/not lied about, it would have restricted the ability to have frank discussions as well.

    Oh well, ignore that, it’s a ‘personal matter’ after all. What people, paid for by the taxpayer, do in an office also paid for by the taxpayer, is entirely a private thing. Plus the prime minister has forgiven him and there is absolutely no self interest in that decision.

    * you can imagine how these would go
    “****ing hell, he’s lying about PPE/care homes again”
    “This bloke is the worst Secretary of State we’ve ever had”
    “Has he no shame whatsoever?”
    “ Let’s make sure he has no role at all in the purchase and roll out of vaccinations”
    “ He asked me to get him an onion to help him cry in TV”
     
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    According to Tim Montgomerie, Tory party commentator and former advisor to Johnson, the reason Handcock hasn’t been sacked is the fear that other ministers will be scrutinised more closely and there will be a domino effect of resignations down to sordid transgressions…..but could also be that, as the COVID inquiry gets set up, Handcock acts as a human shield for Johnson…..

    Meanwhile we will be denied the views of Andrew Neil on these momentous events, as he is taking a break from his own news channel after two weeks of hard work, gaining a loyal following of about 6% of that of Homes under the Hammer. He has denied that it’s a flounce out after an argument with the channel’s CEO.
     
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    Hancock resigns. Hooray.

    Reckon Gove will replace him.
     
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    Yes, but what for exactly?
     
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    I reckon the public reason will be breach of social distancing rules, whereas we all know this man bears a big responsibility for deaths in care homes, has lied endlessly, has dodgy contracts to account for and has probably breached governance rules by appointing his girlfriend. Still, these are personal matters, and if we judged all ministers by these standards we’d have an empty cabinet table.

    Is it too much to ask for a government that is both competent and honest? If forced I’d settle for at least one, but neither is a bit much.

    Pretty sure Labour would fail on the competency bit, and give them time on the honesty one too.
     
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    Labour might well be as incompetent, but they couldn't possibly be as corrupt as this lot.
     
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    Only because their connections aren’t as good. Look at a few local councils and the way some Labour affiliated unions are run.

    Anyway, they have to learn to be much more dishonest to the electorate before we get a chance to see them in action nationally.
     
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    Given half a chance, I'm sure they'd give it a go - have a look at what happened in Liverpool
     
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    They've done a proper job on Croydon...
     
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    There are undoubtedly corrupt ****ers in the Labour party, but it's a question of degree, in my opinion. This government seems corrupt from top to bottom.

    As a broad generalisation - and with many examples to the contrary - I really believe that most people that join the Labour party do so because they want to correct injustices and to help people they don't even know. Tories want to help themselves and their mates.

    Imagine no religion.
     
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    Show caption
    Television industry
    ‘The thought is unbearable’: Europeans react to EU plans to cut British TV
    EU media critics say post-Brexit plans could pave way for more homegrown content

    Kate Connolly in Berlin, Angela Giuffrida in Rome, Jon Henley in Paris, Helena Smith in Athens and Sam Jones in Madrid
    Fri 25 Jun 2021 13.17 EDT
    It was during a trip to Brighton for an English language course in 1984 that the young German student Nicola Neumann first discovered British television.

    “The elderly couple who put me up tried really hard to educate me further, so we’d sit in front of the telly together every evening and then talk about the programmes afterwards,” she said.

    She remembers watching news bulletins, EastEnders, Coronation Street, and ‘Allo ‘Allo! – and every Friday night without fail, a crime drama.

    “I was hooked,” she said. “Since then I’ve not been able to imagine my life without British TV and film. I like the quality, the tone, the humour, the way it has taught me to express myself in colloquial English. For me it’s been an education over three decades.”

    On her return to Germany, Neumann continued to get her “fix” through videos and episodes of programmes such as All Creatures Great and Small, and Upstairs, Downstairs, which aired on television – albeit dubbed into German – in Bavaria, where she grew up. More recently, said Neumann, who is a bookseller from Erlangen, it has mainly been streaming services and YouTube which have helped feed her craving.

    EU prepares to cut amount of British TV and film shown post-Brexit
    So when it was reported earlier this week that the EU was preparing to act against the “disproportionate” amount of British television and film shown in Europe after Brexit she said she was “furious”.

    “Some of us are still reeling from the shock of the Brexit referendum. We’ve thought about the consequences of things like freedom of movement, import duty, or fishing, perhaps, but this is one of the things we had not paid attention to.

    “I guess if it happens I will try to circumnavigate the problem even if it means going to the UK and buying up loads of DVDs,” she said.

    Chiara Lagana, an Italian journalist who writes about TV, is equally shocked at the prospect of having less access to British content.

    “The thought is truly unbearable,” she said. “I’ve been fond of British TV series for years. The thought of losing them or not having access to new ones makes me feel poorer. They are of huge quality, much better even in comparison to the US.”

    In Spain, British television series have always been viewed as “prestige products”, said Natalia Marcos, a journalist for the TV section of El País.

    “Downton Abbey is one example of that, as is The Crown. But it’s not just the period dramas – British cop shows are also very popular. Line of Duty has found a real niche among TV lovers here, who really rate and respect it,” she said.

    Marcos said she believed that if Spanish viewers were to find themselves deprived of their favourite British shows, many would not hesitate to resort to illegal means, such as VPNs – encrypted connections over the internet which help circumvent geographical locks.

    Gabriele Niola, a film critic and Italy correspondent for Screen International, agreed. “I don’t think the impact will be too significant as people will still find ways of accessing shows if they really want to,” he said.

    But post-Brexit, politically the will is there to challenge the dominance of British TV and film.

    When the European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, visited Rome this week to formally approve Italy’s spending plan for its share of the EU’s recovery fund, the Italian prime minister, Mario Draghi, hosted her at the Cinecittà film studios in Rome, where €300m (£257m) of the funds are to be invested in development.

    “It’s obvious that if Britain leaves the EU, then its productions no longer fall within the community’s quotas,” the Italian culture minister, Dario Franceschini, told Corriere della Sera. “Europe will have to respond on an industrial and content level, and Cinecittà will be strategic on this front.”

    Sten-Kristian Saluveer, an Estonian media policy strategist, said EU plans to reassess the amount of UK content – in particular on streaming platforms such as Netflix and Amazon – were inevitable.

    “A big catalyst is the increased trade tensions between the UK and France, as well as the EU’s anti-trust procedures,” he said. “The question is not so much about original content produced in the UK as it is about studios in the UK connected to platforms like Apple and Netflix, which are very well positioned to utilise the good relations the UK has with the US – as well as exploiting the European capacity, including everything from work permits to subsidies,” he said.

    “When Britain was in the EU there were spillover effects for the rest of the bloc. But now it’s not, the question is why should these platforms be able to exploit the same benefits?”

    Saluveer said smaller EU members could stand to benefit from a reduction in UK content, as it could allow more room for their content. He cited the box office success Tangerines – an Estonian-Georgian co-production which was nominated for a Golden Globe – or the Oscar-nominated The Fencer, a Finnish-Estonian-German collaboration.

    have cult followings – would continue to show as many British series as it ever had, he said. “There are no plans to cut what people like to watch.”

    Even in France, notoriously protective of its cultural heritage, British TV draws big audiences and dedicated followings. Costume crime such as Peaky Blinders and Ripper Street, and contemporary cop shows such as Luther, Killing Eve and Bodyguard are recent examples.

    “British television fiction is of a very high quality, there’s a lot of it, and it consistently has a great deal of success in France,” said Laurence Herszberg, director of the international Series Mania festival, adding that several leading French production houses now had British subsidiaries.
     
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