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Patrice Evra accuses Suarez of making racist remarks

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Alan, Oct 15, 2011.

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  1. suarezlfc

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    [video=youtube;x6SreHFtQzs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6SreHFtQzs[/video]
     
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    How loud is that end of the ground? The fans I mean.
     
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    I mean the busquets case being thrown out.
     
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...hester-United-UEFA-dismiss-racism-claims.html

    "Sergio Busquets is free to play in the Champions League final after claims he racially abused an opponent were thrown out by UEFA.
    Busquets was charged by the governing body after Real Madrid accused him of calling Brazilian full-back Marcelo a monkey during their ill-tempered Champions League clash at the Bernabeu last month.
    Spaniard Busquets was facing a five-match ban if found guilty but Barca will have the 22-year-old available to face Manchester United at Wembley on May 28."
     
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  5. DayDoDoeDontDayDoe

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    <laugh><laugh>

    " I hope not as he is a great player" Bollo%s, you would ejaculate in your pants if Suarez got a large ban.Odds are though, you know it and I know it, this will probably be thrown out.

    Its incredibly hard to prove, the only way they could prove it IMO is with Audio/Visual Camera evidence, ie you actually here him say it on camera, or one of the officails heard it, even lip reading wouldnt be enough.Secondly, it would start off an absolute minefield, before you know there will be accusations/Lawsuits, even from years gone by, all over the show
     
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    Well Busquets was facing a 5 game ban, so you'd assume Suarez would be given similar IF proven.
     
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    Ah I remember it now.

    I think in that case the pathetic nature of both clubs played a part.

    Uefa would of had to suspend both clubs.
     
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    I looked at a few past cases.

    Some were thrown out, some were found guilty and banned, others led to the police being involved such as a young motherwall player in 2001.
     
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  9. suarezlfc

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    No they wouldn't. If you read the article, the suspension relates to the player only, not his club.

    A whole club don't get a 3 match ban if one of their players gets sent off, do they?
     
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    Chelsea groundsman - The groundsman was deemed to of used offensive and discriminatory language. Evra was wrong in calling it racism but he wasnt lying. Just mistaken.


    So when making racist allegations people, Patrice Evra is sometimes found to be mistaken
     
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    I mean if uefa had dealt properly with everything from that game. it was a farce remember. An utter joke and a terrible advert for football.

    Racism was just 1 bad thing from the game.
     
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    I cant argue with that. His past would suggest on one occasion he was mistaken.
     
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    It was actually thrown out, if you want to know, because of lack of evidence. Busquets claimed that he wasn't saying 'mono mono', but something that might have 'looked' the same (I can't remember what it was he claimed).

    SO, even though they had footage of his mouth moving, they still couldn't prove it. Unless they've got a mic trained on Suarez, they probably won't prove that either.
     
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    Yeah, but that isn't the issue we're discussing. See above why it was dismissed. Each 'offence' was dealt with separately, it wasn't all just scratched off.
     
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    UIR quote
    "Pretty certain United have got video evidence.

    Sir Alex gave Evra permission it seems. "


    OK , they may have video evidence, but as they reported the incident to the ref 20 mins after the game, they wont HAVE A CLUE, whats on the video, and from what we have seen ,there aint even anythin even remotely close of proof of racial abuse
     
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    replays are available seconds after the incident.
     
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    So in the 20 mins after the game, someones been fast forwarding through a video, tryin to to find Suarez movin his lips, and hopin for dear life that it looks like he say the word ni%%er , or words to that effect.......errrrrrr no!!!

    Like I say , this is what has happened,Fergies heard his player, say someones made a racist comment,and Fergies said we had best report to the fa, let them deal with it.No one has got a clue what is on video

    So when you say pretty certain United have got video evidence, you are talkin out of your backside, cos they wont have had a clue whats on video
     
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    Evra would of said exactly when it was. Would of taken seconds.
     
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  19. suarezlfc

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    Yeah, IF the footage is available. It isn't like ****ing De Ja Vu with Denzel where they can hone in on everything that's ever happened. If they didn't film it, it won't be available.

    If they did film it, they'd need a good shot of his mouth, and preferably some audio.

    P.S: You'd need pretty good skills to lip read this guy -

    [video=youtube;-w034UKHNNo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w034UKHNNo[/video]
     
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    And they say Liverpool fans are delusional!!!!!
     
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