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Thomas Frank & Johan Lange (& Fabio Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  1. Thomas Frank

  2. Andoni Iraola

  3. Simone Inzaghi

  4. Marco Silva

  5. Roberto Di Zerbi

  6. Other (state in comments)

  7. Oliver Glasner

  8. Xavi

  9. Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. Spurf

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    So according to you Levy has no ambition to compete at the top.Then I think you need to explain why he would initiate the building of one the worlds finest football stadiums. Why he would also build one of the worlds best training facilities. Why he would secure Kane with a contract that broke all previous records at Spurs. Why he fights so hard to retain our top players in the face of overtures from the 10 or so clubs with greater resources. Why he employed the worlds most successful manager. Your argument, which you keep repeating, has no basis in fact.

    Spending without limit does not signify ambition it just shows stupidity if you are running a football club developing from it's own resources. Not only is it wrong to suggest that Levy lacks ambition, apart from the founders of the club you could argue that Levy is the MOST ambitious chairman in Spurs history.

    The position you hold flies in the face of all known facts and all it reflects are your wishes for success of the team you support. We can all agree with that but you need to base your beliefs in some sort of reality otherwise following Spurs becomes a pain rather than a pleasure.
     
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    The biggest fear of any Spurs fan would be to repeat the experience of Leeds United in chasing the big prizes.
     
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  3. Spurlock

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    Hope our 6th choice turns us down aswell

    Levy deserves it the ****in basement bargain hunting tramp
     
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  4. Spurf

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    <laugh> Yeah paying a manager 15million a year. Some basement some bargain <laugh>
     
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  5. Spurlock

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    You don’t seem to grasp my point so I’ve put it in my sig for yourself and the other Spurs purists

    The man has zero clue about football and wastes our transfer money. You see, if you really wanted to dig deeper you’d realise he puts money up(pretends to) then makes tonnes of excuses when it comes to crunch signings and decides it’s better off in his pocket but I tell you what..I’ll buy you a cheaper version of what we need to please the Levystas. His property portfolio is no good to my football club and it doesn’t impress me, that’s ENIC at work exploiting the position of a well established football club with great heritage. Typical shiasty, opportunist money maker…nothing to do with Football.

    I’m not interested in what happened to Leeds 25 yrs ago and I’m certainly not that man who spends his time living in fear of that…yet I’m the one who doesn’t enjoy football?

    Of course he’s going to offer 15 mill to Jose, like I said he’s got the money but not for improving the team significantly. It’s gone past your head that the 15 mill to Jose is well worth it with the agreement that Jose could turn these turds into gold because Levy sure as hell wasn’t going to buy anyone decent. So that 15 mill is peanuts compared to the 60 mill he should have paid for Skrinrar who helped Inter win the league. So he spent 15 mill on Jose that year and another 15 on Rodon(Skrinar alternative). That’s 30 mill…you see how he makes an absolute mug of the fans who fall for it?
     
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    Let’s hope we’re not waiting over 100 days and then pluck a manager out of nowhere like Sellick have. Bizarre appointment.
     
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  7. Spurf

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    Your argument is based on what? What you think happened with transfers for which you have no information other than what appeared in the media. We could have the best team in the world if all transfers went as hoped but they don't WHY? Because each involves at least 2 clubs a player an agent a family and if all thise factors come together you might sign who you want. Jumping up and down and ranting will only produce your unhappiness. It's not that I don't hear your argument it is that you don't have one.
     
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    Well, you are entitled to an opinion, quite simply to increase the value of their investment, it is not difficult to see why they are here. Harry Kane is on a contract that he could double elsewhere. Every chairman fights hard to retain top players, they would be negligent if they did not. He employed the worlds most successful manager because he is a number cruncher and clueless about football.

    Who is asking for limitless spending, just that at a level of one of the 10th richest clubs in the world. Levy has limited ambition, his primary focus with this investment opportunity is to maximize profit and the value of the club, but he is risk averse at all times, he will not compromise the balance sheet, ever. Spurs used to have ambitious chairmen who would break the transfer record (Gascoigne).

    All these Levyista`s and ENIC fan boys, are stuck in a cycle of accepting mediocrity, a cycle that has been created by ENIC, they need to break away from the comfort of that cycle and remember that this is a football club, not just an investment opportunity.

    PS. I will keep repeating it until I am blue in the face.
     
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  9. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I'm very concerned about having a manager and DoF who have zero experience of English football being Daniel Levy's new chumps. They're both likely to be very expendable and given that we spoke to Rangnick about being DoF (and probably others) and numerous coaches, neither were our first choices. Fonseca wouldn't get through the door for an interview at any other top club in world football. He is a West Ham or Watford manager. No more and no less.

    Is Levy going to relinquish final say on squad management? If we'd actually intended to change our current appalling culture and appointed Conte, I'd like the look of Paratici a whole lot more. Conte'd go ****ing nuts at him, if his picks weren't landed and Levy meddled but we've gone for ****ing Zorro, who'll know that he's here until we can get someone decent in and won't want to rock the boat...so, we can expect Frazier Campbell to return to replace Harry Kane and Sonny. We're about to see a repeat of the Commolli/Ramos summer. All the ****ing ingredients are there.

    This looks like the scraping of the barrel because everyone that we really wanted turned us down...with good cause and stinks of mediocrity and panic.
     
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  10. Spurf

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    How many times has Levy broke the transfer record?
     
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    I am more concerned that he is Portugese. (Not another one! is my reaction) Most managers in the PL have not had previous experience of England so I don't see that as a worry. They are not coming to manage a team of English players anyway. If we are employing another Portugese manager then I see that as a mistake but hopefully he will prove me wrong.
     
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    Highest paid chairman in the league(in his pocket)
    Highest ticket prices(in ENICs pocket)
    We became the first team to go a summer window without making a purchase(**** the team)
    Staff furloughed(**** the fans)
    Didn’t back Poch(**** the team)
    Didn’t back Jose(**** the team)

    but at least the Levystas get to enjoy Anthony ****ing Joshua in September <diva>

    Yes Levy cares about Tottenham Hotspur Football club
     
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  13. Spurf

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    It's called professional football.
    I agree Spurs charge too much but if you choose to pay it then you are endorsing that decision.
    The first team not make a purchase I doubt that's the case but if it is building a new super stadium that will take Spurs to a new level is a reasonable excuse.
    Staff furloughed? Levy is a business man in a neo liberal country that does not care much for staff rights or unions. What did you expect? Do not misunderstand my support for ENIC staying at Spurs as support for a selfish system that does not give a **** for community. The direction you want to take Spurs makes all these thing more likely and far worse. You are playing with billionaires most are not to be trusted. Maybe if we got Bill Gates it would be a step forward but the chances of that are not great.
    Not backing Poch was clearly a mistake and at least he has admitted that. This is football did City just win the CL? They should have, shouldn't they?
     
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    when we were doing well under Poch this place was full of phrases like

    ‘we are punching above our weight’

    For me that said a lot about fan base mentality. For me, we weren’t punching above our weight, we were doing what we should be doing with our squad and management set up.

    We have small thinking, ambition less fans who just want to argue about spreadsheets and net spends because that’s the only way our club holds some kind of significance in the grand scheme of things. Remember we are the football club who wins **** all yet got invited to the ESL and Levy signed for it

    The whole football world knows we have money, Levy is a greedy twat and he will always follow the £

    I’m shocked that the purists have let Levy off the hook, I’m glad to say a few have seen the light and know what ENIC are about.

    Football>Property Portofolios not the other way round

    Levy Out
     
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    It's far worse than that...and it's just possible that Fonseca may be a smokescreen to cover up what Levy been up to whilst his main ****ing job should be cleaning up the ****ing mess he's made of the football side of the club...

    Yes, he's been buying a ****ing golf course in the name of THFC...

    https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/whitewebbs/

    That's all you'll ever need to know about ENIC and Levy's priorities in one.

    Levy OUT!
     
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    at least he admitted it? See that’s enough for you

    for me, yes even if he admitted it…so what? what’s he doing to change it going forward? What did he do to change it under Jose? Ive seen nothing to suggest he has learned anything.

    I’m not bothered about other clubs all I know is we would be doing much better with an owner who has a clue about football…and when you do better you take care of the other teams by default. From a position of strength he has managed to make us a laughing stock.
     
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    How many of them have been any ****ing good at all?
     
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    As much as a disaster Jose was for us…if there was one game I would have wanted him in charge for us out of the 86 he managed us in, it would have been the League cup final but Levy messed that up too

    The guy is so clueless I have to laugh <laugh>
     
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    Come on Brian, whether they are good or not is a matter of opinion and luck. Footballers are people not machines there are all kinds of factors that relate to success or failure in a particular team. Did you see Gazza play for Lazio? He was a shadow of the man who played for Spurs. Ndemebele looks slow and unfit here but put him in another league or team or even with a different manager and it all changes. Sissoko has gone from bad to brilliant to poor again all in the same team. You know all this. Nobody always buys the right players
     
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  20. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    There's something very wrong at the centre of our football club. We won't spend the money required to buy quality and consistently overpay for mediocrity. This isn't on the odd occasion. We've done it over and over again.

    If, as a business, your actions consistently achieve poor results, you need to change what you're doing and who's doing it. We've sacked numerous coaches, managers and the odd DoF...and it's made zero difference. The one person who's still there and has total control of what goes on at the football club...?

    It's Daniel and he needs to GO. NOW!
     
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