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No Adam dive = no Liverpool goal.

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  1. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    Lets not forget this. Had the ref given the correct call and Adams was booked for simulation then Liverpool wouldnt of scored today.

    Our defence for the most part put in one of its best performances of the season and coped with much of what Liverpool had to offer. Rio had Suarez tucked away in his pocket first half, he didnt get a sniff until that lucky break just before half time ( good save de gea ).

    If the ref got everything right today, regardless of how poor going forward we were, we would of won the game 1-0 today.
     
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  2. Skylarker

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    Rio admitted in the interview he clipped him.

    If you get clipped and go down it is a foul.

    I take it you listened to the match on the radio and didn't watch it, including post match interviews and pundit reviews of the incident?

    BTW - I like you UIR but you seem very bitter about todays match, take it like a man and accept the draw was an alright result.
     
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    I accept the result and am quite pleased about it.

    Rio said he dived at the time, after the game he saved himself a ban by just saying he touched him. The replays show adam dived and thats what does it for me.

    We cant go excusing diving just because there may of been a tiny touch or because of a players momentum. It needs cutting out but things like this just make a mockery out of any rules related to diving/simulation.
     
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  4. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Diving happens every week in every game... It's part of the game now. Money has took over and diving is football culture. It's a real shame but it's here to stay. Lets be honest you've got your fair share of divers (like all teams). You win some you lose some, no big deal.

    Downing dived, I wont deny that.

    Adam got clipped, he had the choice to either try and carry on or go down and get a foul. That was his prerogative as Rio shouldn't of clipped him. He chose to go down and get a foul. Simple.
     
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    I agree with that - even Evans did pretty well apart from the lucky break that bounced off the back of his leg. Most of Liverpool's chances were long shots or set pieces, which is a big improvement on last year.

    Not commenting on the decision itself, cos it's basically a pointless argument. But I wouldn't say we'd definitely have won. I think SAF only brought Hernandez on in response to going behind, so if that sub hadn't been made it could well have finished 0-0, who knows. We certainly didn't create enough to deserve the win prior to going behind.
     
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  6. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Im talking as I look back at the game and if everything went as it did but the ref got the calls right then we would of won.

    Obviously you cant say Hernandez was coming on regardless as we will never know. He did come on and he did score.

    I think Nani and Rooney were ready to come on at the time though.
     
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  7. Julius Caesar

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    Are liverpool fans actually trying to claim it was a foul? <laugh>
     
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  8. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Yes some are, others are saying there was contact and some have said it was a dive.

    You can guess which poster has said it was a foul though cant you.......rabble rabble rabble.
     
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  9. Skylarker

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    Yes it was a foul. But if Adam hadn't of gone down it wouldn't of been given. So Adam is seen as the bad man even though Rio admitted he clipped him.

    It's a tough one and I'm trying to give an unbiased view. It is a scenario that could of gone either way, and this time it went our way. Rio tried to tackle with his wrong leg, hence he slightly clipped him. Enough for Adam to go down? probably not. But once you clip a player in that area of the pitch no matter how much contact you're asking for trouble.

    And he did clip him - Rio even admitted that. Which he deserves credit for <ok>
     
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    It was a dive definitely, but if it wasn't given then the whole game would've changed and you may not have had a corner to score your goal. Would've been a completely different story.
     
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    To be fair it was a dive but the goal was giggs' fault, and you can't argue about someone diving vs you considering you've got Nani who dives nearly every game and has dived to win you many free kicks and penaltys that have led to goals.... and not forgetting Ronaldo in his first season with United, to this day i've never seen someone dive and roll around on the floor so much
     
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    You would never have won that match. The only time that you actually showed ANY attacking intent was after 'Pool scored. You just sat back after Hernandez's goal.

    You played for the draw and got it.
     
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  13. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Nani doesnt dive.

    Play acts but dives? Not really man.
     
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    Maybe so but I was looking back on the game and that was what would of happened had everything been the same bar the ref getting his decisions right.
     
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    Play acts <laugh>

    Even the thought of a grown man play-acting makes me laugh!!
     
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  16. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Haha hes bad for it. hes my fave player atm for United but that really does piss me off.

    I object to him being called a diver though. He really isnt.
     
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  17. Skylarker

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    I dunno if I would rather be known as a 'diver' or a 'play actor'... Both wreak of **** to be honest.

    Oh well another day of controversy, I like it <ok>
     
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  18. Julius Caesar

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    You can say there was contact, but if thats a foul so is every single time two players touch. You are right though that Rio put himself in the situation for Adam to take advantage.
     
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  19. Skylarker

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    That's exactly the point.

    If it was anywhere else Adam wouldn't of made a big deal of it and it wouldn't of been a foul. Due to the position of the incident on the pitch Adam took advantage of it. You can bet your life every manager would suggest that their players take advantage in those exact situations. It is within the rules as he was clipped, therefore a foul, because Adam turned it into a foul.

    It's a strange one (and a negative point of the game) but that's how the game is nowadays.
     
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    <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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