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Thomas Frank & Johan Lange (& Fabio Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  1. Thomas Frank

  2. Andoni Iraola

  3. Simone Inzaghi

  4. Marco Silva

  5. Roberto Di Zerbi

  6. Other (state in comments)

  7. Oliver Glasner

  8. Xavi

  9. Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    Levy is not ENIC. Joe Lewis is.

    Levy is removable.... it's up to us ...
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Not necessarily, given Conte has never really performed radical overhauls of his squads in the transfer market and instead goes for specific signings, hence I bring up the three signings our team clearly needs

    The only time he's ever really splashed out on single players is on strikers, namely Morata at Chelsea and Lukaku at Inter, so on paper there was common ground to work with

    The problem is that a lot of other things that don't work out are also on paper, like Fifty Shades of Grey
     
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  3. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    So who is responsible for providing the manager/squad or both?

    Seriously, SAF was a fantastic manger but was greatly helped in his success by David Gill, without Gill SAF may have not been quit the legend he is today.
    Whilst we still have Woodward in that position we will struggle to gain any ground on the likes of City/Liverpool and maye Chelsea now.
    Levy is your Woodward only worse.
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    It is worth asking if Levy saw the way the wind was blowing and was looking to see if someone became available. Case in point, it was widely speculated that Christophe Galtier would be leaving Lille even before they won the league, and I'm trying to recall if there were similar suggestions that Inter's team would be broken up even before they won the title

    It also has to be said that the reason we brought in Poch was because he fell into our laps due to falling out with the Southampton brass, rather than being our first choice, so there's times where playing a long game works

    It just helps if you don't spend a few days publicly courting somebody else before you do it...
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Levy isn't Woodward for one reason: he invests, but the problem is he does seem to be concerned with what the reactionaries think

    Santini and the ubermensch are the most obvious example of this from hiring managers, while bringing in Pini Zahavi to work with us on our 2019 summer business (even though Zahavi is also Ndombele's agent...) is this for transfers, and that’s where things go south one way or another
     
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  6. KingHotspur

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  7. The Changing Man

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    I didn't post anything about Conte as I never expected it to happen. He is just not a Spurs style manager, (he wins things for a start!). But in all seriousness he is a short term appointment who expects a lot of money and immediate success, I like others despise the timing but do think that in the long term we may be better off without him.

    I am another who has cancelled his memberships ( I was paying for 3), and have already said here that I will be watching live football further down the pyramid again, Levy, the superleague and VAR have convinced me to watch locally again.

    As for Spurs I agree with Brian (as I find that I often do), the director of football is the most important appointment and he must be allowed to do his job without interference, maybe if we still get the Ex-Juventus bloke then he will have the sort of contact that will bring in the coach that we need and we might stop wasting money on vanity managers and expensive players that fail to improve our team and the performances on the field.
     
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  8. Roo

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    For me last nights news wasn’t actually the fact that we aren’t getting Conte that pissed me off. I agree with huddlefro’s previous post and do wonder whether if he’d end up being a short term thing after an inevitable falling out with Levy.

    But what it did do was highlight a couple of things that concern me about this summer.

    Firstly, if youth player development and this soundbite known as our “DNA” is key for Levy, does he really think that players like Jack Clarke, Rodon etc should be the main focus right now with the mess we’re in? As if by some miracle these two plus a load of kids from the academy will slot straight in to the team over the next couple of years and all will work out? Really?!
    Don’t get me wrong, we need this happening in the background (as another project is now inevitable), but we need to spend money and make up for what has been needed for years.

    Secondly, is this “youth excuse” not inadvertently telling us fans that we’re not prepared to spend in the summer?
    Have we just been briefed about what this summer is going to be for us again, despite how desperate we are for an overhaul of quality players?

    if the manergial situation is this much of a mess, imagine what the transfer window is going to be like with a Euro’s in the middle of it.

    late signings, no plan, no preparation, and a genuine lack of backing for who ever gets the job.
     
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  9. Billy The Spur

    Billy The Spur Well-Known Member

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    This shambolic and scrambled managerial hunt has yet again highlighted what an unambitious and incompetent clown Levy is, bumbling around trying to hoodwink managers into coming to Spurs, giving them a target of top 4 and nothing else, while having no meaningful investment in the playing staff. There is no wonder Conte has run a mile, and Harry Kane will almost certainly be following him down the road.

    Fack ENIC, fack Lewis, fack Levy. Please close the door on your way out, thanks.
     
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  10. PowerSpurs

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    The odd thing about Conte is that the evidence suggests he is an extremely good coach and a poor judge of whom to sign. Chelsea's signings while he was there were dire and looking at Juventus and Inter I can't find anything much better although I don't have much knowledge of Italian football. So getting him to come while not 'backing him' was probably the optimal but impossible outcome.

    However I don't see that Levy can survive this one, even if that leaves me worried, as I can't see we will find someone better.
     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Jeez. I’ve just woken from a heavy, heavy day and night in Bournemouth, best mate’s stag do and we were meant to be in Vegas but Rona put a stop to that. Bournemouth on day 1 though has been great, activities and a monster of a session around town and today will be about beers on the beach but it’s meant until now that I’ve literally not seen any news about Spurs. I’ve basically done an Ally Gold, go away for a day and **** goes down (doesn’t in this case!) <laugh>.

    So from what I can see on here (not even checked Twitter yet) Conte is off? And it’s one of Potter or ten Hag? Hmmm. Bit of a mess. I wanted both ten Hag and especially Potter for quite some time as many know but something does feel very disappointing knowing we were seemingly about to bring in one of the world’s very best managers and it’s now fallen flat.

    I’m not gonna pissed if it is ten Hag/ Potter, I’m a huge fan of the latter especially and I do believe he can do big things with better resources but Conte was seemingly there for the taking, not saying he would’ve guaranteed us trophies or a title but I do think he’s someone who could’ve provided one of the best chances at this current moment in time.

    Don’t you all just love supporting Spurs at times? <rofl>
     
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  12. The Changing Man

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    I wonder have we reached the point yet where Sam Allardyce becomes a viable option?
     
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  13. Spurf

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    I am not at all disappointed or even that surprised that we didn't sign Conti. Not at all what is needed at Spurs IMO. We need someone who can work within the constraints that exist at Spurs we are just not yet at the level of City, Chelsea , Liverpool or United. so there is little point in going after a manager who expects that level of resources. We are not in the business of buying Ronaldo or Messi so why would we look for the equivalent in managers. I think it's bullshit anyway we are just as likely to succeed with someone like Potter as we are with Ancelotti. There is no doubt in my mind that Ancelotti is a top manager but he couldn't take Everton much beyond their usual place in recent times. Spurs need to look at Leicester because that is where we are, the edge of the top 6 with the occasional over achievement when someone like Pochettino or Redknapp has a blinder. I think the new stadium will in time take us up a level but not when it's empty. It will be even more interesting to see how well someone like Potter can do when he is allowed to step up rather than Mr.Glamour manager taking a step down.
     
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  14. Solid Air 2

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    convenient typo mate <whistle>
     
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  15. KingHotspur

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    He’s in Las Vegas playing poker apparently <laugh>
     
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  16. KingHotspur

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    Spot on and I’d have more respect and faith in those in charge of Spurs if they came out and said this. The annoying thing is Levy keeps trying to hire ‘glamour’ managers so it leaves mixed messages about what direction the club wants to go in.

    I hope now they stick to their brief and appoint someone swiftly (pay for Ten Hag or Potter) and then give this promising coach time to mould a squad that can hopefully get Spurs back to playing good football and back into the CL.
     
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  17. Solid Air 2

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    Having read the last few pages i keep seeing the assertion you can spend on your squad like us but yet your net transfer spend regularly exceeds ours . We operate in similar range of players the difference being we have been brave and paid what it takes to get our prime target which sometimes paid off VVD , Allinson and sometimes didn't Keita .
    From where i sit your problem isn't the amount you spend its on whom both in terms of the player themself but also the needs of the team . A good team always exceeds the sum of its parts and average players can look top class as they perform a specific role whis is important to the whole .
     
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  18. The Changing Man

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    <applause><applause><applause>
     
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  19. gooner4ever

    gooner4ever once a Gooner always a Gooner
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    my sons going to Bournemouth for a stag in a few weeks instead of going to Vegas ! He has been moaning about going to Bournemouth since it was changed, but from your post it sounds like a good place (not as good as Vegas but a damn sight cheaper) to go to.

    Spurs have avoided another Jose situation with Conte, it would have blown up eventually
     
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  20. Roo

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    Imagine being the manager who agrees to the job, but knowing you were about the 8th choice at the bottom of the list, and aren’t going to be backed because it’s already been made publicly clear.

    by default, we’re going to end up with a Scott Parker type because the way this has been handled has resulted in:

    A) no top managers left to approach
    B) a job role that is becoming less appealing by the day, that only some will be willing to take on knowing the parameters.
     
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