1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Is there a god?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Toonitus, Jun 3, 2021.

  1. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    No I don't think there is. The balance of probability is massively against it anyway. I also do think the responsibility of proof lies with the believer. Its akin and no different to me saying I believe in ghosts, pixies or woodland sprites. Any rational person is going to say "You're talking absolute tosh mate, prove it". And I'd be unable to. This is no different whatsoever.

    Regardless a lot of people are definitely telling porkies.
    • There are an estimated 10,000 religions worldwide.
    • There is an estimated 8000-12000 gods listed throughout time.
    They can't all be right can they.

    It really is staggering that 84% of the worlds population believe in one of these 10,000 religions. Some great minds in amongst that contingent too. Why then do people believe in God? My belief is it is human nature to perceive agency in the complexity and unpredictability of the world - hence we get stories about pixies or ghosts etc. Even when actual evidence is absent. Also human existence also depends on cooperation. When we lived in small groups as we did before the advent of religion (yes it hasn't always been around :biggrin:), cheaters are punished by other members, and they quickly learn that they have to get along. But in anonymous societies, it’s easy to take advantage of others, as there’s no way for the rest of the group to punish those who take advantage of the system. The solution was to invent ever-watchful gods who’ll punish cheaters for us. Thus, organised religion grew hand-in-hand with the rise of the city-state. Its about control of behaviour and progress.

    But hey, live and let live, whatever gets you through the day.
     
    #61
  2. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2011
    Messages:
    13,929
    Likes Received:
    11,874
    There may be a lot of iterations, but that many people can’t all be fundamentally wrong, can they?

    Personally I think gods are just human beings having too high an opinion of themselves, as if we matter more than anything else, and we look for answers beyond “you die, the end”.
     
    #62
  3. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Essentially life was so gruesome they had to come up with something to keep them motivated enough to eat today's soup of the day.
     
    #63
  4. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    12,129
    Likes Received:
    12,637
  5. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    The only difference being that I can see the football
     
    #65
    Schlem Boogerman likes this.
  6. Ben 10

    Ben 10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2012
    Messages:
    15,019
    Likes Received:
    12,671
    Is Graeme Jones classed as God?
     
    #66

  7. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    12,129
    Likes Received:
    12,637
  8. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    12,129
    Likes Received:
    12,637
    No.
     
    #68
  9. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    Charles Martin
     
    #69
  10. Ben 10

    Ben 10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2012
    Messages:
    15,019
    Likes Received:
    12,671
    That dosser Joshua beat?
     
    #70
  11. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    He walks this earth like a god
     
    #71
  12. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Did a good job, but in the end Ferguson removed his soul
     
    #72
  13. Ben 10

    Ben 10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2012
    Messages:
    15,019
    Likes Received:
    12,671
    Absolute prick of a bloke. Don't know why he bothered retiring, still see his miserable face every time Man U play
     
    #73
  14. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Sadly he experienced the quikening when he dismembered Keegan
     
    #74
  15. Ben 10

    Ben 10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2012
    Messages:
    15,019
    Likes Received:
    12,671
    Still a sour faced pisshead
     
    #75
  16. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Keegan was never the same after that...all the goodness in his soul was consumed by his enemy for eternity
     
    #76
  17. Ben 10

    Ben 10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2012
    Messages:
    15,019
    Likes Received:
    12,671
    You watch too much fantasy **** <laugh>
     
    #77
    Flash likes this.
  18. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    12,129
    Likes Received:
    12,637
    Massey? Plough.
    See the power of the plough.
     
    #78
  19. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    12,129
    Likes Received:
    12,637
  20. Ben 10

    Ben 10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2012
    Messages:
    15,019
    Likes Received:
    12,671
    Does the pope **** in the woods?
     
    #80

Share This Page