When I’m watching Spurs I just want us to win, of course I want us to aspire to good football but I’ll take the odd scrappy 1-0 along the way if the signs are there or it’s winning us a trophy. If I’m watching a game as a neutral I just want to see a good game. That could be a very close, intense contest or it could be one team playing simply phenomenal football. Watching a dominant team grind out a result is definitely boring but that Barca team were definitely not grinders. They played some phenomenal stuff. I do agree with Spurf that tiki taka can definitely be boring though. Barca elevated it and thanks to Messi and some others they had players capable of moments that few others are, but I found the dominant Spain team from the same era less fun to watch. They were mesmerising in their passing and movement, and technically phenomenal too, but they lacked the unique individuals such Leo Messi that made the Barca games fun.
It depends how you define good which is what this discussion is all about. In fact it's unlikely that playing like those two managers you will see an entirely dominant team emerge. I think you are more likely to see an exciting team that is beatable, but will win and excite at the same time.
Pretty accurate description in fact. Think, if you have the choice to see Spurs play, say Grimsby OR Spurs play Chelsea. I think most fans would prefer to see Spurs/Chelsea because it is a fairer contest. Equally Grimsby fans might be more interested when they play Barrow.
I picked Grimsby at random I didn't realise they were bottom of League 2 hence my choice of Barrow as a crucial game for them.
Surely you could never get tired of your team winning? You wouldn't want Spurs to dominate, create memories for life and win every trophy going (in style) with homegrown talent? Because I would love that for my club.
The Premier League attracts new fans by being relatively competitive, though. It's one of the reasons that it's the most popular with a worldwide audience and a lot of other leagues are struggling. Up until this bloody weird season, you had Juve, PSG and Bayern winning their leagues in virtually every season for the best part of a decade. La Liga's a little more interesting, but you still have to go back to 2003 and Rafa Benitez' Valencia for a winner outside their top 3.
Nope maybe it's an age thing. It really is not exciting to follow a team that wins everything. If it's a war, like it is in Scotland between Rangers and Celtic. They dominate and play each other twice in the league each season. If you support Hearts or Aberdeen you may hope to challenge every so often but not win. It's just boring and lots of Scots have a second team in the PL to follow. I really cannot see the attraction of going to see your team week after week winning and rarely challenged. What is the point?
One season of the invincibles is very exciting the second less so, the third, ok big deal, the fourth Yawn!
If Citeh get Kane then they can tie up the PL for the next five years. Frankly they should have been able to do that for the previous five years with what they've spent, but perhaps the best manager in the world (TM) isn't? But even Uncle Roman can't keep up with the spending of a state that simply needs to pump in more from it's own 'sponsors' to balance the books. Even then they nearly got it wrong and got away with the UEFA punishment on a technicality. Basically I'm saying that the PL could go the way of the other leagues with one team dominant, and the league will be all the poorer for that.
This is why some sort of Super League is inevitable unfortunately. Most if not all domestic leagues are dominated by the usual suspects and its not very exciting.
That's why I found it odd they didn't have a Bundesliga tie-up, given Bayern's status not only within their own league but also Europe as a whole I guess Perez & friends couldn't think of two other Bundesliga teams to approach
There is that unanswered question about the three empty slots in the ESL as nobody in the Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Eredivisie or anywhere else has mentioned any overtures being made, even though you'd assume Perez & Co would have Bayern, PSG and Ajax touted as prospective members
You’d have thought so. I wonder if they approached RB Leipzig as (IIRC) they’re one of the few German clubs who are an exception to the 50+1 rule and are no strangers to controversy themselves anyway. Not necessarily the glamour team though are they. I’d have been surprised if PSG were on board, their owners and those of Manchester City don’t exactly get on…though I believe they resorted diplomatic relations earlier this year so maybe it’s not as bad as it was a few years back. Would think they’d want any excuse to stick the knife in at the ESL though, which IIRC they did.
Monster Energy Dusseldorf seems like a sneaky way to do it, by getting a foot into the Bundesliga with a team who generally **** all over the league as it is to see if Bayern or Dortmund follow
Leipzig turned it down and slagged it off. Their CEO said this: “We are advocates of sporting competition. And sporting competition in professional football means fighting to achieve a position in the domestic league table that allows the team to take part in international competitions. For us, changing this is absolutely out of the question. We reject any plans to establish a Super League.”
