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I guess you're going to ignore that their CO2 consumption per person is increasing, along with their population. A good example is car ownership, which has boomed in India overt the last 10 years, with a 30% increase this year alone.

 

Yeah India wasn't the best example to use for C02 emissions

The point about excessive consumption of the worlds resources by rich nations stands though.

 

Only if you didn't want to skew the numbers to support your argument, but as an indication of future trends it's perfect. All those 'developing countries' use more and more to become more developed in the hope that, one day, they will be those rich countries. Then their people can fly away on holiday every year, buy new energy sucking appliances/toys, drive the kids to school in the SUV because it's raining.

 

Have you seen @PINKIE new SUV

He drove all the way from Cornwall to Manchester to collect it, while thinking about caring for the environment on his drive up there.

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It’s an old one.

And I went on the train

 

so highly inefficient then.

Face it Pinkie, there is no reasonable argument against culling the human population, just an emotional one, and you live in fantasy land if you think it can be fixed any other way. And my way is fair, rich or poor, black or white, nature won't care.
It's a **** sandwich being offered to a starving man on the brink of death, and it seems you choose death.

 

Have you told Ern, about the van that you went to Heathrow to get a few weeks before that, but it cramped your planet saving surfer boy style, so you scraped it.

Thinking about it your emissions into the environment must have been through the roof that month.

 

^^ Drives a V8 and takes domestic flights

 

If the plane is going to fly anyway and it saves a car journey then really the person who goes by plane is helping.

 

Well the flight will never stop running if people decide it's always worth taking

My post was tongue in cheek anyway as I'm sure you know.

 

Depends who you want to cull I suppose. If you're concerned about it being a natural resources issue then another 3 or 4 billion people in the world's poorest regions with the smallest carbon footprint isn't going to make any difference, but it that was applied to rich industrial nations where unfettered capitalism reigns and over consumption is prevalent, then it would likely finish us off

The very poorest countries (home to 9 percent of the global population) are responsible for just 0.5 percent. This provides a strong indication of the relative sensitivity of global emissions to income versus population. Even several billion additional people in low-income countries — where fertility rates and population growth is already highest — would leave global emissions almost unchanged. 3 or 4 billion low income individuals would only account for a few percent of global CO2. At the other end of the distribution however, adding only one billion high income individuals would increase global emissions by almost one-third.

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-by-income-region

 

It's only a V6

 

Only the thing is, if your entire position here is based on letting nature do its thing and that being of benefit to mankind as it reduces the global population, then this isn’t the virus for you. As the majority of those who’ve died of COVID were beyond their reproductive years, so their premature death does nothing to stifle population growth.

What your position needs is a deadly virus that is more prevalent and deadly to the young. A virus that sees our hospitals full of kids, many of them dying. You’d obvs be calling for the schools to be kept open and everyone to just crack on, as the death toll of all of those kids will do wonders for controlling population growth, so it’s just nature’s way, and the medical profession should take a moratorium on it, and just sit back and watch. Don’t let emotions get in the way and all that, it’s for the greater good.

 

I did think that after I posted but thought I'd leave it

 

Barely read it tbh

 

In all seriousness, I would switch to an electric car if I could afford it.

They do an electric version of mine. It starts at £71,995 ....

 

I'm sure Ern wouldn't let emotions get in the way if it was one of his family members gasping for breath on a hospital bed.

 

You live in a fairyland of utter bullshit. You obviously firmly believe that 9% are going to want to stay scratching in the dirt forever and all the developing countries are going to stop developing just to make a bunch of lefty dreamers happy.

 

Whereas the idea of mass human culling seems perfectly reasonable to you

The point though, is about using the planet's resources in a sustainable and equitable way. Not letting unfettered capitalism, endless growth and mass consumerism continue to push us all towards extinction and suggesting that we simply cull people as a solution.

 

I still don't get how all this electric car stuff is going to work. Millions of people will not be able to charge vehicles outside their homes, health and safety are going to have a field with claims. For me it's always been ok if it's fuel and electric, but to go totally electric seems crazy.