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Takeover (Covid-19/20)

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by RobEllious, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    1. Yeah bruce was welcomed in with arms? Come off it

    2. I heard fans say it and read
    their comments im not lieing Im not that sad

    3.pre covid was our best start for years.


    4. Why dots that matter its working now?

    5. Pre Southampton was a Jones 1st gave vs everton that's the point... We got unlucky with injuries and performances dipped again

    6. Fans have been shown to be demonstrably wrong because as soon as we got our best players available and post Jones we've been doing very well.

    7. The 5 at the back was also accompanied by ritchie and Murphy being used and both were very successful.. We scored loads of goals.

    8.He's done better than rafas last season.. The fans used that strong finish to bolster their argument that Rafa had done better than Bruce, but now of course the fact Bruce did exactly that's different?



    You've tried to answer, but there's not really any substance to any of it..

    It's just that you don't like the way we played before he turned it around?


    My argument clearly highlights that the fans are not being reasonable... They're just refusing to acknowledge him for the good things he done.
     
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  2. Rum & Black for 2

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    Yo
    You’ve again ignored my points. You make vague, wild, general claims and contend Rumpole of the Bailey couldn’t do better. At this stage I haven’t a clue what point you’re trying to make or support with these points. I doubt anyone else does either.

    as GG said

    I would say average to poor job and should have done much better with what players were available but other than that GG is right.

    EG1. Two wins in twenty games is bad, really bad.

    EG2. Least possession stats for whole season save one game.

    EG3. 19th in number of passes

    EG4. 18th in through balls

    EG5. 18th in clean sheets
     
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  3. Albert's Chip Shop

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    what about the played 20 won 2 stat when we played relegated clubs too?

    see how easy it is to cherry pick facts.

    since his first ever game in the PL he is statistically the worst long term manager the league has ever seen in terms of win %.

    the end.
     
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  4. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    You'd agree with any argument that suits your emotional hatred of Bruce.

    You're like most fans unable to overuse their emotional decision making..

    The fans have managed to twist every single thing... Mental gymnastics throughout his tenure.

    I'm not having a go because it's just the way it is.. The fans in general are full of **** at all clubs.
     
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  5. Toonitus

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    And post Jones?

    You see its pointless banging on about what went on before the hole was plugged.

    Since Jones came in there's not been a problem... Its as simple as that

    You're just being malicious imo
     
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  6. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

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    Ahhh, out of meds again Heed. You should just send that young whippersnapper Dorts to get them. You know you get lost when you go.
     
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  7. Toonitus

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    Ahhhh the 2 wins in 20 argument

    Lol

    Forgone me but if you've struggled to understand the entire basis of my argument then I'm not going to explain it again.

    Do they other wins not count?

    You've just presented stats based on a season and then at the very dave time used a stat from a select period in that full season..


    Which is it the full season or are we going to look at the worst part?

    I'm looking at the results since Bruce brought in Jones if you're looking at this period before, with covid and Injuries

    Which?
     
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    FOR ****S SAKE CAN YOU KEEP THE BRUCE LOVE TO THE BRUCE THREAD!!!!

    It's really, really not hard to do.
     
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    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

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    My 5 examples all include the period when Jones was here. So again you’re wrong, simples.
     
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  10. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Excuse me?

    Have you got anything interesting to debate about the takeover?

    The hate seeps out when people hear things they don't like... Hate clouds your judgement and controls your decision making

    Bruce's done fine its really that simple..

    Whether I want a better manager is irrelevant to that fact.
     
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  11. Toonitus

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    So could you be so kind as to let me know how many points we took during that period? You know the most important stat in the Competition?

    How many goals? You know the most valuable stat in the game?


    Nufc was 8th best in that time and scored more goals than anyone


    Who's wrong did you say?
     
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    Are you Steve **** face Bruce?
     
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  13. Toonitus

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    <laugh>

    No mate but I know I'm right that's all.

    I'll say it again

    1.Before covid was our best start since we came 5th

    2.We struggled during covid and through injury

    3.We performed the 8th best side in the league post covid and Jones with our best players on the pitch.


    Oh Bruce asked for willock too... Forgot that part

    Feel free to argue against the 1st 3 points.


    Cut me some slack lads carry on your hate campaign... Its not my fault im just telling you the truth
     
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  14. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    You asked questions, I answered them and you've then changed your questions.

    Thanks for reminding me why I stopped posting on here.
     
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    So just after criticising someone for cherry picking a period you now go and do it. <doh>

    Have a look at my examples 4 of the 5 cover the whole season and the 5th one covers both before and after Jones’ appointment. That’s being fair.
     
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  16. Toonitus

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    No I haven't at all..

    You've presented arguments against the points and they're not accurate.

    I'm tired of this tbh

    I know exactly how bruce must feel.. I've been victimised myself at times in life and there's nothing you can do
     
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  17. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    The neutrals are all telling you the truth too, but you prefer to think they're against nufc in some way.

    They just look at the table, watch games and tell it like it is.

    He's done fine man
     
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  18. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    So what I don’t like Bruce.

    I am judging him based on the season as a whole. The comments I made and the points I agreed to are all perfectly valid. I’m allowed my own opinion.

    I don’t want him as manager. I think we can do better.
     
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  19. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    No asked you what stats I was looking at, so I could use something appropriate.

    Are we judging Steve bruce on finishing 12th and current performances or are we being Petty and picking out the worst bits to justify your argument!
     
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    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Ok so we finished 12th so I assume you feel that's not good enough?

    What were you hoping for? Top 10?

    So do I but he's done well imo
     
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