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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by GroveRanger, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. DMD

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    That just seems much ado about nothing.
     
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  2. DUNCAN DONUTS

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  3. QuarterMoonII

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    Once you have had both jabs, they will not bother testing you anymore so you cannot die within 28 days of having a test. Back to my old argument about how you can have a positive test on Monday, get run over by a bus on Tuesday and be listed as a plague death by the ONS on Wednesday.

    Astonishing that nobody has been posting on this thread any of the several incidents where old people have been given one of the vaccines and dropped dead within hours. This is conspiracy theory manna from heaven.
     
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  4. QuarterMoonII

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    In this case “the vaccine” was the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. Mr Shakespeare was the first man in Britain to receive the vaccine but not the first person. A caveat should be added when describing Mrs Margaret Keenan as the “first person on earth” in that she was the first person not taking the vaccine as part of a clinical trial. Thousands of people had the vaccine anonymously before it gained approval for general use. Clearly no guinea pigs were harmed in the making of this vaccine.
     
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  5. The Anilingus Aficionado

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  6. QuarterMoonII

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    I am not sure what those Mancunian dunderheads have got to do with The Merchant of Venice. :emoticon-0112-wonde

    I preferred Irish Professor J.D. Bernal’s version: “All that glisters may not be gold, but at least it contains free electrons.” <ok>
     
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  7. HRH Custard VC

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    He died of cancer, which he had before taking the jab
     
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  8. QuarterMoonII

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    Sadly yesterday the first man to receive the approved Pfizer/BioNTech plague vaccine died. It would be churlish to not offer condolences to his family and friends. He was not a young man (81) and he did not die of the plague. The first woman to receive the approved Pfizer/BioNTech plague vaccine lives on aged 91. So do millions of others. Thousands of people who had one jab or two will have died. They would have died anyway, perhaps more quickly of the plague.

    Naturally anti-vaxxers and their ilk immediately put two and two together and got five. The simple creatures that we refer to as Remainers will also immediate conclude that this would not have happened if we had stayed in the failing Superstate. That is possibly true because millions would still be waiting on vaccines, expendable in the cause of The Project. Thousands of them would have been dying with the plague, fuelling the social media frenzy about lockdowns amongst crazed Lefties desperate to blame Boris for something to deflect from their craziness.

    Facts become very useful in situations like these. We know that the median age of people who die with the WuFlu is over 80, so the younger you are and the better your health the less chance you have of succumbing. Given the mortality rate is much less than one per cent, spreading the plague to the unvaccinated is the real issue. Young superspreaders, therefore, should make sure their grandparents get inoculated.
     
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  11. QuarterMoonII

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    Let us start with some facts. This is not “the biggest plague since the black death”. Millions of 80+ lived through a World War but I do not think I need to explain.

    What is there to explain about people living without the vaccine? If you are in good health irrespective of your age then you can ‘live on’. If you catch the plague, it might make you ill or hospitalise you but you could still live as the mortality rate is so low (as I stated).

    The logical person, however, would get inoculated when offered the opportunity to give themselves a 90 per cent chance of avoiding the plague. Every year in this country millions get inoculated against influenza before what is widely known as the NHS Winter Crisis. Those simply worried about their runny noses should invest in a box of Kleenex.
     
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  12. Ciaran

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    My Ma is banging on at me to get my son vaxxed what a world
     
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  13. The Anilingus Aficionado

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    Kick her hole.

    Over 1000 vaxx deaths in UK so far...

    Anyone who is prudent about their own health should assess their risk of dying of CV19 then assess if they actually need to take the vaxx considering, CV19 deaths have plummeted since the jabbed the folk who make up 99% of CV19 deaths.

    They should also ask why the vaxx is still not fully approved by any of the health boards in the West as yet.

    Be sensible... kids don't get ill with CV19 so **** giving them an experimental potion until, at the minimum, the clinical trials are complete.
     
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    Tin foil hat low IQ immune system deniers are ****ing idiots.

    99.% of healthy people don't die of it .

    yUu dO tHe mAtH
     
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  15. rogueleader

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    The science on covid vaccination- all of the different ones available- is really quite conclusive.
    It might be a good idea but also it might not.
    So, don’t see what the issue is here tbph.
     
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    Worse things happen at sea.
     
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    Especially with Somalian pirates trying catch bees. What a ****ing trip that was. @Hash. is still out there. Or at least the real Hash is, not the fake one that I have just tagged.
     
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  18. DUNCAN DONUTS

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    **** you
     
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  19. QuarterMoonII

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    It would be interesting to know the source of your statistics to check this claim. Whereabouts on Facebook may we go to laugh at this fact free inaccuracy? Are you sure you do not mean “1000 people have died within 28 days of taking a vaccine”?

    According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) it is not possible to give a figure for people who have died within 28 days of taking a vaccine because whether an individual has been vaccinated is not recorded on death certificates.

    Such a statistic would be just as misleading and inaccurate as the one that the media continue to peddle about people dying within 28 days of a positive plague test. There is a world of difference between died WITH the plague and died FROM the plague. The same difference applies to people dying AFTER inoculation and dying FROM inoculation.

    Public Health England (PHE) does provide an estimate for the number of deaths that have been prevented by vaccination, which stood at 13,000 for the 60 and older age group on 9th May 2021. They estimate that more than 39,000 hospitalisations have been prevented to the same date. Again, these estimates can hardly be considered fact as they are based on predicted cases without vaccination from those wholly unscientific people at SAGE. Dom was right about SAGE; a bunch of charlatans.
     
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    You need to be more specific about “vaxx” in this context. Do you mean Pfizer/BioNTech, Oxford/AstraZeneca, Moderna, Novavax, Janssen or Sputnik V?

    Pfizer/BioNTech was approved in the UK by the MHRA on 2nd Dec 2020.
    Oxford/AstraZeneca was approved on 30th Dec 2020.
    Moderna was approved on 8th Jan 2021.

    The US Food & Drug Administration has given emergency use authorisation to Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and Janssen.

    The European Medicines Agency has authorised for ‘conditional marketing’ Comirnaty (BioNTech), Janssen, Moderna and AstraZeneca.
     
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