I don't really get this discussion. The following points seem obvious to me: The objective of football is to win so outcomes where trophies are won are generally better than outcomes where they are not won. 1 depends on which trophies to some extent. I would rank Spurs getting to the CL final and losing over winning the Johnstone Paints Trophy. However trophies are rare events and I don't think they are a good measure of whether team performance is improving. League points are the best long term measure of performance.
It was rather good ... and certainly way better than your latest aberration ... but tell me, how many rival fans bothered to congratulate you on your recent successes? ... we've had quite a few ... guessing you've had none... because, guess what, you haven't had any ... unless there was a trophy for club with the most deluded fan of course? ... you need to get your bumps felt fella
All I’ve done is literally quote your own words back to you, and scoffed at your ridiculous premise. Lesta winning the league after nearly being relegated the season prior, was arguably the greatest sporting upset of all time (odds wise it definitely was). They got to the QF of the CL the following season, but had a couple of seasons of disappointment in the league. They then recruited Rodgers and started to rebuild, nearly got CL football last season, look odds on to achieve it this, and have now won the FA Cup. Yet here’s you, proclaiming that their achievements are somehow dwarfed by Sours winning **** all in the same period, going through 2 managers and ending up with the possibility of no European football at all for next season. With your ‘zinger’ point being that the fans would have got upset if you’d have won the league and then dropped back, a pot that you’ve not won for 60 years, and a cup that you’ve not lifted for 30. Which not only completely ignores the relative positions of both clubs going into the time frame, but is also completely delusional. If you genuinely think that you’re on solid ground with this position, then I really can’t help you.
We could win everything and rival fans wouldn't congratulate us. They still don't see you as an actual rival. You're seen as a plucky underdog, not a dubiously owned club overspending to sportswash.
I would... and we are still a plucky underdog ... but one that is having to be taken very seriously by the Greedy Six...
Right, it looks like more than a few of you need some visual representation -------------------------------------this is a line------------------------------------- READ HERE -------------------------------------this is a line------------------------------------- Sustaining challenges is the point, because any team can have a season where the stars align and they get something at the end, be it Blackburn winning the Premier League or Wimbledon winning the FA Cup, but if the season ands and the following season either sees them never mount a serious attempt at repeating that or even experiencing some catastrophic collapse then the fact is there's only two types of responses from fans: either the happy-go-lucky one about having their time in the sun which may or may not have sections of the fanbase get stroppy because they should think they're Bayern Munich because they won one trophy (which is exactly what Roy Keane was saying about the Irish fans during the 2002 World Cup, that they be thinking they're bigger than a couple of good players and a bunch of journeymen even though the Irish side was a couple of good players and a bunch of journeymen) or they respond to the rollercoaster-like fluctuations by acting like the physical manifestation of hooking a polygraph to David Cameron And it has to be said, in terms of size and expectations of the two, Spurs are ahead of Leicester in terms of both - and the point is we haven't met those expectations, which is causing certain people to start acting like Lady Havisham when they see any other club win something. Seriously, I'm sure that somewhere out there on Twitter there's one moaning git saying we should be ashamed that Cheltenham Town won League Two this season while we haven't won anything, when the fact of the matter is we have won far more than they have - because we aren't from Cheltenham
Ahhh now I understand ... so Man United will remain the best performing team in the Premier League until someone else overtakes their total points dating back to the Premier League inception? ... even if they actually win nowt in the next 5 years? ... gotcha ...
... but don't furlough our own staff and do reject PPV to rip off fans ... our owners are Thai and do what every Thai business does to survive ... greed indeed.
They've made their money by being part of corrupt governments for years, dating back to Shinawatra and beyond. The idea that they'd turn down an invitation to the ESL is ****ing laughable. They're as bent as Abramovic or City's owners. Have you paid back the money from your bankruptcy yet?
We’re 3rd in the all time top division points table, so we’re obvs having it off compared to City, the yo-yo no marks
No. But Solksjaer's performance as manager is better measured by league points than whether he wins a trophy. As is any other manager's performance.
So if the plucky underdog has won 2 major trophies and the better team has failed in everything they competed in which has had better five seasons?
As an outcome, definitely. But it's not a good measure of the club strategy unless you can tell me how Leicester deliberately arranged to be so variable in performance. If they did it on purpose then I applaud their brilliance.
