Off Topic Israel

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Spurlock said:
When someone wakes you up in the morning and says gtfo of your house because it’s mine now...I don’t think it’s a complex situation at all...I think I know exactly what is going on
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On the ground its quite simple for the people experiencing it, some **** is pulling me out of my house. The other **** says "why you livin here illegally"

But the overall political picture which prevents intervention is deffo complex and not as simple as "well, just get rid of israel ini"

Theres quite a few complex problems which stop people from even talkin about it
 
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I think we should send in Swampy, he knows how to deal with this shhite...

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Welshie said:
On the ground its quite simple for the people experiencing it, some **** is pulling me out of my house. The other **** says "why you livin here illegally"

But the overall political picture which prevents intervention is deffo complex and not as simple as "well, just get rid of israel ini"

Theres quite a few complex problems which stop people from even talkin about it
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Probably because everyone cries ‘Anti semite’ if you talk about the poor Israelis. When I say ‘everyone’ I mean the Western world
 
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Spurlock said:
Probably because everyone cries ‘Anti semite’ if you talk about the poor Israelis. When I say ‘everyone’ I mean the Western world
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I had to think what you meant by that, the bolded bit.

So to understand it, I first had to identify what or whom was deemed as Israeli - so I looked it up.

I didn't know that one and half million people with Israeli citzenship identified themselves as Palestinian.

Hence it answered my question, the source I found: https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-who-is-an-israeli-1.5333716
 
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Spurlock said:
Probably because everyone cries ‘Anti semite’ if you talk about the poor Israelis. When I say ‘everyone’ I mean the Western world
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Some of the "examples" that have been added to the definition of anti semitism are clearly just there to protect Israel the state from criticism rather than Jews from anti semitism .
 
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brb said:
I had to think what you meant by that, the bolded bit.

So to understand it, I first had to identify what or whom was deemed as Israeli - so I looked it up.

I didn't know that one and half million people with Israeli citzenship identified themselves as Palestinian.

Hence it answered my question, the source I found: https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-who-is-an-israeli-1.5333716
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there is an Arab political party with seats in the Knesset but i'm ****ed if i can remember their name ..
 
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Welshie said:
You arent going to find much support in Arab countries for an Iranian funded and armed Hamas.

Thats why the Arabian governments firmly dont give a ****

This is all a part of the much larger cold war in the middle east, Israel are on the winning side.
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won't find much support for a successful Arab democracy in the leadership of the ME countries either. Makes you wonder which 'Palestinian' fired the first rocket.
 
Solid_Air 2 said:
there is an Arab political party with seats in the Knesset but i'm ****ed if i can remember their name ..
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Part of my thought process, was to ask were the recent elections cause of this trouble?

I never really found the answer, because it all seems too complex and as I don't know their political make up, it just makes it a black hole of information I'm unlikely to understand.
 
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brb said:
Part of my thought process, was to ask were the recent elections cause of this trouble?

I never really found the answer, because it all seems too complex and as I don't know their political make up, it just makes it a black hole of information I'm unlikely to understand.
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no, it's about evicting Palestinians from the homes they've had since the jews left them when all the other Arab states invaded them in '48.
 
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brb said:
Part of my thought process, was to ask were the recent elections cause of this trouble?

I never really found the answer, because it all seems too complex and as I don't know their political make up, it just makes it a black hole of information I'm unlikely to understand.
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well all the corruption charges surrounding Nethanyu don't help but it is more down to the decades long illegal expansion by Israeli Jews into Palestinian land .
 
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Spurlock said:
Typical response to a few very basic questions

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Would have gotten a bit more respect if he simply answered "yes, we believe Israel have a right to fire back."

Like even if you disagree with him, aleast his answer would be honest.

What load of bollocks

Like during the Rwandan genocide the US rep said "we dont want to say genocide, but we believe maybe, some acts of genocide are taking place... but this is a complex situation we can't talk about much"
 
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brb said:
Part of my thought process, was to ask were the recent elections cause of this trouble?

I never really found the answer, because it all seems too complex and as I don't know their political make up, it just makes it a black hole of information I'm unlikely to understand.
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One outcome of this violence appears to be Benny Netty may have actually gotten together his coalition.
 
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Solid_Air 2 said:
since Hamas are launching rockets at Israeli civilians the Israelis are within their rights to take military action to target launch sites , military dumps etc . Since actions are being launched by Hamas from built up civilian areas there is unfortunately bound to be civilian casualties and far more of them than will be Palestinians than Israelis .
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Given that Palestine had been squeezed and shrunken into two small strips, the West Bank and Gaza. It’s not surprising that they don’t have a dedicated ‘militarised zone’ that is far away from towns and houses.
 
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