They’ll most likely be thick uneducated gammons either way. That should give you enough ammo for three paragraphs of unpunctuated gibberish.
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They’ll most likely be thick uneducated gammons either way. That should give you enough ammo for three paragraphs of unpunctuated gibberish.
It's not that odd. He plainly did say what he's accused of saying, he just lied about it in the HoC. He's a liar, simple as that.
He's relying on the fact that the people that heard him (apart from Cummings) won't say so on the record at this time, and that by the time there's a judicial enquiry where they might be called to give evidence on oath, he'll be long gone anyway.
As a QC, I think Starmer should have framed the question better. This was his question...
“Could the Prime Minister tell the house categorically, yes or no, did he make those remarks, or remarks to that effect,”
Johnson answered, 'No'.
That could be interpreted as just refusing to answer the question, rather than denying he'd made the remarks.
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She's been shafted from within.
I wonder what she will be replaced with? No doubt by somebody who is an even bigger religious zealot who will cause further unrest amongst the Unionist Community of N.I. due to the Brexit agreement that was agreed and signed last Christmas.
In the meantime, the Shinners are calling for a vote on a United Ireland. That won't unite the two communities. Where is all this heading???
Downhill rapidly I'd think....all totally foreseeable, unless you're sat in Westminster with your big "I love Brexit" t-shirt on. NI has been totally shafted - the NI Protocol can only lead to more unrest, especially from the Unionist community, which in turn will provoke the Nationalists. I hope I'm wrong, but I think it's a tinderbox waiting to explode
I agree with you Steels. It is a disaster waiting to happen.
Two out of every three school kids in N.I. are Nationalists. Belfast is now a majority Nationalist city. The demographics are changing so quickly.
I really fear for the future. A divided N.I. is bad news for everybody living on these two islands.
Two out of every three school kids in N.I. are Nationalists. Belfast is now a majority Nationalist city. The demographics are changing so quickly.
I really fear for the future. A divided N.I. is bad news for everybody living on these two islands.
does this mean france will stop sending them to the uk
EU presents strategy to send unauthorized migrants back
By DW Published on : 2021/04/28
The bloc's plans are part of a larger reform package on migration. The strategy includes smoother legal procedures to deport the rejected migrants and the use of visa restrictions to convince countries to take them back.
The European Union presented a new strategy on Tuesday to persuade reluctant home countries to take back asylum-seekers the bloc has rejected.
The strategy forms part of a larger reform package on migration, which includes counseling for migrants who arrive without authorization, as well as extolling the benefits of returning home.
The EU also wants to help the migrants reintegrate once they arrive back in their homeland.
Other elements to the plans involve smoother legal and operational procedures to deport them, and the use of development aid or visa restrictions to convince countries to take them back. Territories the migrants may have crossed as part of their journey to Europe may also be convinced to take the asylum-seekers, according to the European Commission.
EU recognizes shortcomings
"It is not a secret that the European Union did not do particularly well on returns so far,'' Commission Vice-President Margaritis Schinas told reporters.
And Schinas laid out the EU's new plans to improve upon the bloc's record of ensuring asylum-seekers go back.
"We are building a new ecosystem on returns — increasing cooperation with third countries on readmission, improving our governance framework," tweeted Schinas, who also holds the title of Promoting the European Way of Life at the Commission.
We are building a new ecosystem on returns – increasing cooperation with third countries on readmission, improving our governance framework, equipping @Frontex with a new mandate on returns, a new EU Return Coordinator. Voluntary returns an important step. https://t.co/OdlaEvbw8W pic.twitter.com/aBJOePEgKr
— Margaritis Schinas (@MargSchinas) April 27, 2021
He added: "Europe will remain an asylum destination for those fleeing persecution and war. However, those with no right to stay will have to be returned to their countries of origin. Not doing so undermines the credibility of our system and prevents us from protecting those who need it."
2015 crisis
The EU has struggled to overhaul its migration policies in the wake of well over 1 million people arriving in Europe without authorization in 2015, most of them asylum-seekers from Syria, overwhelming facilities across the Greek islands and Italy.
Their entry sparked one of Europe's biggest post-war political crises as nations argued over who should take responsibility for the migrants.
Nevertheless, when hundreds of thousands of asylum-seekers crossed Germany's borders, Chancellor Angela Merkel promised: "We can do this," as she sought to reassure those who doubted the policy of accepting the newcomers.
The European Commission proposed sweeping new reforms last September, but the divisions have not yet been overcome, even though migrant arrivals have dropped.
The splits among the EU's 27 member states have prompted the bloc to come up with Tuesday's proposals.
Hard-line policy criticized
But not everyone was impressed with the EU's new strategy.
Catherine Woollard, director of the European Council on Refugees and Exiles (ECRE), said that while generally voluntary returns were preferable to forced relocations, the EU focused disproportionately on sending people back.
"Asylum decision-making in Europe remains a lottery, with wildly divergent protection rates across the EU. In addition, flight from violence is still not well handled by asylum-systems," she told news agency DPA.
"This means that people are receiving rejections when they have protection needs and when it is not safe for them to be returned. Member states are returning people to places that are not safe."
EU presents strategy to send unauthorized migrants back
By DW Published on : 2021/04/28
The bloc's plans are part of a larger reform package on migration. The strategy includes smoother legal procedures to deport the rejected migrants and the use of visa restrictions to convince countries to take them back.
The European Union presented a new strategy on Tuesday to persuade reluctant home countries to take back asylum-seekers the bloc has rejected.
The strategy forms part of a larger reform package on migration, which includes counseling for migrants who arrive without authorization, as well as extolling the benefits of returning home.
The EU also wants to help the migrants reintegrate once they arrive back in their homeland.
Other elements to the plans involve smoother legal and operational procedures to deport them, and the use of development aid or visa restrictions to convince countries to take them back. Territories the migrants may have crossed as part of their journey to Europe may also be convinced to take the asylum-seekers, according to the European Commission.
EU recognizes shortcomings
"It is not a secret that the European Union did not do particularly well on returns so far,'' Commission Vice-President Margaritis Schinas told reporters.
And Schinas laid out the EU's new plans to improve upon the bloc's record of ensuring asylum-seekers go back.
"We are building a new ecosystem on returns — increasing cooperation with third countries on readmission, improving our governance framework," tweeted Schinas, who also holds the title of Promoting the European Way of Life at the Commission.
We are building a new ecosystem on returns – increasing cooperation with third countries on readmission, improving our governance framework, equipping @Frontex with a new mandate on returns, a new EU Return Coordinator. Voluntary returns an important step. https://t.co/OdlaEvbw8W pic.twitter.com/aBJOePEgKr
— Margaritis Schinas (@MargSchinas) April 27, 2021
He added: "Europe will remain an asylum destination for those fleeing persecution and war. However, those with no right to stay will have to be returned to their countries of origin. Not doing so undermines the credibility of our system and prevents us from protecting those who need it."
2015 crisis
The EU has struggled to overhaul its migration policies in the wake of well over 1 million people arriving in Europe without authorization in 2015, most of them asylum-seekers from Syria, overwhelming facilities across the Greek islands and Italy.
Their entry sparked one of Europe's biggest post-war political crises as nations argued over who should take responsibility for the migrants.
Nevertheless, when hundreds of thousands of asylum-seekers crossed Germany's borders, Chancellor Angela Merkel promised: "We can do this," as she sought to reassure those who doubted the policy of accepting the newcomers.
The European Commission proposed sweeping new reforms last September, but the divisions have not yet been overcome, even though migrant arrivals have dropped.
The splits among the EU's 27 member states have prompted the bloc to come up with Tuesday's proposals.
Hard-line policy criticized
But not everyone was impressed with the EU's new strategy.
Catherine Woollard, director of the European Council on Refugees and Exiles (ECRE), said that while generally voluntary returns were preferable to forced relocations, the EU focused disproportionately on sending people back.
"Asylum decision-making in Europe remains a lottery, with wildly divergent protection rates across the EU. In addition, flight from violence is still not well handled by asylum-systems," she told news agency DPA.
"This means that people are receiving rejections when they have protection needs and when it is not safe for them to be returned. Member states are returning people to places that are not safe."
A recent poll for BBC NI had a majority of people both sides of the border believing that a united Ireland will happen within the next 25 years....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56777985
Maybe so, but I don't think the Unionist community will go along without a fight.
Interesting article here about the parallels between the Independance battle going on up here, and the effect the upcoming Holyrood elections may have on NI politics...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56777985
I won’t jump the gun here. People that are saying he is guilty are deluded and are just saying it because they dislike him.
I don’t think he would say it but if he did, it may have been a frustrated quote. He is under a lot of pressure. I don’t know.
As for the 2-3 who have retracted the claims that could either be pressure on them, or they didn’t actually hear it. Even tonight on the news they said the fella in the Mail story was only told it happened and wasn’t even present. we will have to wait and see.
As I said Steels, the demographics are changing quickly now. The school kids of today are the voters of tomorrow and with far more Nationalist kids coming through, it is only a matter of time. I honestly think there will be a United Ireland within 20 years but I also think there will be another conflict between the two communities the closer they inch to that position.
Agreement to hold a vote on a United Ireland is contained in the Good Friday Agreement. The whole subject is being discussed more and more in the media now North and South and the simple fact that the subject is being discussed is part of the unrest in Unionist Communities.
If the vote is held, it would be legally binding. The losing side would have to accept that there wouldn't be another vote for a generation afterwards at least. I think the campaign itself would be really divisive, never mind the consequences if the vote is not palatable to the losers, whoever that may be. Would putting the shoe on the other foot in terms of the "the majority rules" resolve anything? Definitely not. There will always be one side of that divide who are not happy unfortunately.
Finally, yes, I see the parallels between Scotland and N.I. independence movements It might sound stupid but a possible solution to both might be, N.I. unionists are sent to Scotland and Scottish Nationalists are sent to Ireland? Would that work? Everybody goes back to where their ancestors came from if they are unhappy with their current/future situation if any potential vote goes in favor of independence? It might be worth exploring.
I won't jump the gun either, people who are saying he is innocent are deluded and are just saying it because they like him.
He’s said worse when not under pressure. How much frustration causes one to come out with something like that?
He would believe Johnson if he came home and found him........oh that's been done.
Sorry, that wouldn't work at all. The Nationalist/Unionist divide in Scotland isn't based on a religious basis as it is in NI, it's more a sense of identity and a belief that being dictated to by a government based in another country that constantly rides roughshod over their wishes. The religious divide really only rears it's head here in the West over Rangers/Celtic, and there is true bitterness there, but there's plenty of Celtic supporters want to stay as part of the UK, and plenty of Rangers fans who want independance.
There's many possible benefits for an Independant Scotland, but personally I think they are outweighed by what being part of the Union can bring. I've said here before, a comprimise has to be made to maintain the Union - give Holyrood extra devolved powers, whilst still maintaining overall governance from Westminster. I don't want the SNP to run an Independant Scotland, as I fear for the economy and what will happen with trade with RUK, especially now Brexit has been and gone. If you thought sorting out the NI issue was a problem, that'll be a walk in the park compared to sorting out a trade deal between England and Scotland - and I that's the issue that will probably kill off IndyRef2, but it'll be close.
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