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Robbo has looked dead on his feet at times this season but he doesn’t get a look in. Either (a) he’s not good enough or (b) Klopp didn’t want him

 

Agree. Far too harsh on a specialist position.

Robertson plays but needs functioning players around him. I think people are crazily harsh on robertson as his main asset is running not being technically sound. HTe guy is working hard getting up and down but he is not getting played in behind at all. So he can't really play the ball across to assist anyone and anyway most of these forwards are not even getting in the box any more.

once robertson is played in you HAVE TO BE THERE. he has to play it first time across or one touch and cut back stuff. If the y are all ouside the box jogging robertson might as well not have i at all.

Tsimikas is there to play when needed now. he got a knee injury etc so let him settle and get a preseason.

 

To be fair he was injured a bit. Maybe klopp was being overly cautious with half of our defence already out, didn’t want to risk tsimikas. He has form for giving it a year before new signings start playing, Robbo himself took time to settle in.

however, does seem odd not giving him minutes in last 10 of games, even as a left winger in front of robbo

 

were we not saying the same about robertson for 6 months and robertson literally had nobody in front of him for the position!

Its a specialist position where you don't get to get into the team elsewhere so you have to wait your chance.

I think seriously though we haven't had hardly any occasions where a game has been won or where we don't need to mind forwards of midfielders etc.

do you rest robertson or do you look after jota and that.

now its one game per week to the end so i expect not to see him at all.

 

I don't know whether that's just your impression or whether you've read something along those lines but everything I've read says exactly the opposite. FSG are one of, (if not) the biggest sports ownership around. They are looking to increase their 'franchise' portfolio not diminish it which is why they have sold a fraction of their stock for £500+m to RedBird Capital, specialists in sport acquisitions. The current portfolio including LFC, Red Sox and a a50% share in a NASCAR team is valued at £8bn. Divide that up proportionatley and it isn't hard to see Liverpool's value being £2-3bn. They aren't going anywhere.

Although, what do I know.

 

The chance was the fairly obvious fact that Robbo like a lot of the team was stale / knackered whichever you prefer .

 

So My impression is this.

They've already sold 11% of the company to a capitalist to get in funds

in 2018 here were rumours henry was out touting the club for about 2billion.

Earlier in 2018 a cousin of mansour was "rumoured" to have bid

in 2016 they ran into the 77 pound issue and tried to hawk the ground and main stand naming rights. rumours were around then that FSG wanted 700million for a "minority share" some chinese bidder then


there is a consistent theme of FSG hawking the club about either fully or for significant minority investment. Redbrid capitalists are the latest in a long long line of these. They simply havent been able to get the big enough deal.

 

I think he's been working really hard and still gets up and down the park better than trent. I think he is suffering more because nobody is playing him in to his strengths, I wouldn't be dropping him when there's more tough decisions to be made and a lad who needs game time to get up to speed.

Its never easy.

 

well give him some then

 

We are trying to also win the games with half the team not performing.

Nobody is demanding neco williams play as far as I can tell at RB, yet we want to drop robertson whos putting his work in?

Of the positions to take a risk in to try improve LB would be one of the least, we are scraping by 1-0 after 70mins recently and struggling for ftiness and the 3 subs are going on forwards and CMs.

Now I get the point, klopp left milber on v leeds chasing about away from home at LW. he could in theory have thrown tsimikas on at LW there but he didnt.

he could have put shaqiri on either, he didn't. he could have put keita on. Again he didn't. It was 1-0 and he didn't want to upset the apple cart. He put on ox and salah and pushed milner to LW to shore up that side.

he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't imo. he's being conservative in his approach and the players are falling back on themselves and not trying to really kill the games off.

 

who said anything about dropping Robbo but some rotation this season might have been an idea since he has played every PL and CL game this season .

 

Sorry, I shouldnt say drop then. I should say when could we Rotated given the lad was injured all over the busy time in December and january and have covid before that and then its the knock outs, we were awful in the cups so he never had a chance.

from now on klopp can't afford a rotation and could afford one either recently for robertson as he is cobbling the rest of the defence together and also midfield.

I'd like the lad to have a go but it hasn't happened and imo can't be risked fro the next few.

I would bloody love us to be 6 points clear of everton and spurs and able to play a few kids and this lad to see how they go with the sun on their backs here.

We are probably headed for 7th with spurs up our arses to take 7th and half the side has their thumbs up their arses.

Kabak and phillips at best for CB? it'd nearly be sabotage the lad to throw him into that.

 

Tbf, he had to oust the left-back legend that is Alberto Moreno.

 

Umtiti linked.

 

I've been reading up on the German way of running clubs and like that link suggests, anyone can be a registered member of a club and have voting rights in that club without having ownership.

 

As I said the other day, the current owners (majority of clubs) would never agree to it. However, it would be a FA decision rather than PL and therefore avoiding the need for a 14-6 vote. Just wonder what the big six would threaten to do as a result...

 

You're right. The German clubs have been run that way for a long time. You can't just lift someone else's way of doing things and place it down in a different environment and expect it to be accepted or to work.

 

summary?

does this mean ze germans are bullshitting about 50+1 meaning anything?

do bayern munich fans vote on something when they don't own the club?

 

The German FA (DFL) stipulate that the members of German clubs retain 50% of the voting shares - plus one share - in the limited companies which operate their teams. "Members" can be anybody who applies to be a member. It's done on a yearly basis. There's an annual membership fee of about €20. Just as an example, this year Bayern has about 290,000 members and Freiburg 25,000 and yes they get to vote, not on everything obviously.