1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

New owner confirmed…

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Hutch-tiger69, May 30, 2016.

  1. Asterix

    Asterix Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2014
    Messages:
    1,738
    Likes Received:
    1,488

    Ah, so they did not conduct any investigation of the finances, nor carry out any due diligence, but only "discovered a mass of other unpaid invoices after they had taken control.." Or, as I put it, steamed in. But I would really like to know the amount they were owed for them to act so.
     
    #18701
    Large Elephant likes this.
  2. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,308
    Likes Received:
    55,825
    Not doubting you.
    So they put no money in?
    They charge interest of ?? Million a year?
    The debt is?? and they guarantee the debt?
    So whoever wants to buy the club buys the debt? Is that right?
     
    #18702
  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,622
    Likes Received:
    75,826
    The debt is to them personally, so obviously needs no guarantee and they’re effectively trying to get someone to repay their debt to buy it debt free.
     
    #18703
  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,308
    Likes Received:
    55,825
    How much is the debt now?
     
    #18704
  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,622
    Likes Received:
    75,826
    £42m in the last accounts
     
    #18705
    SW3 Chelsea Tiger likes this.
  6. Phinius T Bookbinder

    Phinius T Bookbinder Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2019
    Messages:
    3,097
    Likes Received:
    5,243
    Do we actually know a genuine price they want for the sale?
     
    #18706

  7. TIGERSCAVE

    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages:
    17,293
    Likes Received:
    15,165
    I think it depends on the day, the temperature and the wind direction...
     
    #18707
  8. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,622
    Likes Received:
    75,826
    In a word, no.

    They’ve pretty much had all their original investment back in interest and group tax benefits, so anything they get for the club now is profit.

    If they sold the club tomorrow for £15m and wrote off the £42m debt, they’d still be £15m up (in reality they’ll have had some costs, so they wouldn’t actually be £15m up, but they’d still have made millions from their ownership).
     
    #18708
  9. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2014
    Messages:
    13,906
    Likes Received:
    10,645
    Do they own their ground? Big chunk of tha t fee might well be the infrastructure.
     
    #18709
  10. Anal Frank Fingers

    Anal Frank Fingers Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2012
    Messages:
    3,888
    Likes Received:
    2,040
    Council owned
     
    #18710
  11. AmalCarb

    AmalCarb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2014
    Messages:
    941
    Likes Received:
    505

    ...and mood swings.


    Allam’s OUT
     
    #18711
  12. Phinius T Bookbinder

    Phinius T Bookbinder Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2019
    Messages:
    3,097
    Likes Received:
    5,243
    Oh well looks like they are here to stay.
     
    #18712
  13. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,308
    Likes Received:
    55,825
    WHAT COULD GO WRONG WITH DERBY TAKEOVER?

    The new owner of Derby is 29, claims to be a world champion boxer — 15 rounds fought and five wins — and held an advisory role at Sheffield Wednesday, who began the season with a 12-point deduction.

    He calls his company No Limits Sports Limited. And again we ask: what could possibly go wrong?
     
    #18713
    southerntiger likes this.
  14. Howdentiger2

    Howdentiger2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2019
    Messages:
    10,224
    Likes Received:
    21,632
    And people still think it's better to get the Allams out no matter what comes in afterwards
     
    #18714
  15. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    5,207
    Likes Received:
    6,772
    Have you ever been close to someone who was in a relationship in which after a honeymoon period, they were constantly emotionally abused? Just curious
     
    #18715
    Large Elephant likes this.
  16. Howdentiger2

    Howdentiger2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2019
    Messages:
    10,224
    Likes Received:
    21,632
    Yes extremely close and the fact your even comparing that to the owners of a football club and it's fans is actually leaving me speechless and shocked
     
    #18716
  17. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,622
    Likes Received:
    75,826
  18. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,308
    Likes Received:
    55,825
    Highly successful man in the sporting field and made a right **** up of it.


    When owner Marcus Evans took over the club in 2007, the club were £32m in debt to Evans. Due to the club paying Evans around 5.4% interest on the debt every year, club accounts in 2012 showed that the figure had more then doubled to £67m and he hadn't converted any of it to equity.[15]

    After 11 years of Evans's ownership, the club finished bottom of the Championshipin 2019 and were relegated to League One, the third tier of English football, for the first time since 1957. Following relegation the club's debt, which is owed exclusively to Evans, rose from £95.5m to £96.3m.[16][17]
     
    #18718
  19. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,622
    Likes Received:
    75,826
    He did, but at least having ****ed it up, he did the decent thing and ****ed off.
     
    #18719
  20. AlRawdah

    AlRawdah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2014
    Messages:
    8,980
    Likes Received:
    10,180
    I think Ipswich fans will tell you he stuck around for a long time after he was welcome, before he finally ****ed off. Crucially Evans could never get the club’s finances back on an even keel.
     
    #18720
    Chazz Rheinhold likes this.

Share This Page