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  1. stretchyboy

    stretchyboy Well-Known Member

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    Perversely ....probably chambers, who is more suited to just sticking to the middle, as opposed to out wide
     
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  2. itfcptc

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    Who would have been put at RB?
     
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  3. stretchyboy

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    All hypothetical now, but i would've kept and used Donacien
     
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  4. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    All day long. I also can’t believe there is not a quality teenage right back at the club. If you can’t play occasionally at League One level at 18, 19 when clubs like Liverpool, Man City, Spurs, Ajax, Barcelona play youngsters in elite matches then I’m afraid you’re wasting your time.
     
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  5. TopBunk

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    So many youngsters have stepped up to the first team because the quality of the first team is so poor, it’s not a credit to their progression more a product of our decline under Evans.
     
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  6. Spanish

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    We need pace and power in the side and until that happens we are going nowhere, far to slow and powderpuff!!
     
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  7. itfcptc

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    Fair enough, still feels a bit like re-arranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship. If it were down to me I would've kept Emmanuel and bought an experienced (but not near retirement) CB over the summer. Emmanuel has done well for Hull but he wasn't pulling up any trees here and lets face it alot of the players we say should be playing generally haven't proved anything in their time here. It's not like say when Keane got rid of David Wright and to this day we still haven't replaced him
     
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  8. itfcptc

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    There probably is but again it's bringing someone else into the team who has no experience. So we move Chambers to CB who's been a liability for the past couple of seasons and bring in a teenage RB to supplement the inexperience we've already got.

    I think these conversations just highlight how poor the squad has been managed by successive managers pretty much in the entirety of the ME era and to me this points to ME as being the main problem.
     
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  9. itfcptc

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    Should've bought a CB, CM and a striker in the summer who would command a first team place.

    If Norwood and Downes were fit all season we'd be in a different position but given the amount of games you can't rely on 2 players.
     
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  10. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    Not at all. This one is at Lambert’s door because he’s brought in kids from other clubs so it’s not the age that’s the problem, it’s an inferiority complex that he’s had with our own talent and that McCarthy had too.

    The only player who has really made an impact is Parrott. The others are detrimental to growing the team.
     
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  11. itfcptc

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    You mean pretty much every manager since Roy Keane? Who was the last manager to be sufficiently backed in the transfer market (except maybe Hurst)?

    The pattern of poorly managed squads and reliance on loans is repeated again and again every season.

    I'm really pleased we've appointed Paul Cook, I can't remember ever such a well recieved appointment at ITFC but some of the things he is saying and what the fans are saying sound very similar to the start of Lamberts reign... they don't sound similar to the end so it feel refreshing but all our managers have sounded like that at the end of their time. Will the same thing happen with Paul Cook...

    The phrase it feels rotten to the core comes to mind to me it just feels continuously stale to the core season after season
     
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  12. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    We are only really talking about McCarthy and Lambert. It’s not impossible to climb the leagues on a meagre budget. Clubs around us have succeeded in doing that for the duration of Evans’ tenure. Evans’ failure is not so much about finances as a catalogue of poor appointments throughout the club.

    Paul Cook is very different to Paul Lambert. Paul Lambert was a rotten appointment before he even took charge of his first match. He’s lazy and full of ****.
     
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  13. Bigalreigned

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  14. Southcoastoldgaffer

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    I was abroad at the time, but just look at the heart of the team, mouth watering!

    Osman, Butcher, Wark, Thijssen, Muhren, McCall, Brazil (O'Callaghan, 53), Mariner, Gates And I too was lucky to have seen them play on the hallowed PR turf. We made Europe sit up and earned respect worldwide.

    Those were the days, thanks for sharing BigAl.
     
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  15. itfcptc

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    I agree it's not impossible to spend little money and do well, we're probably one of the best clubs who have shown that through our history.

    All ME appointments have had credible CVs before coming to Town unfortunately there has been a real lack of strategic decision making on transfers and squads. Because of that we haven't had a truly balanced squad since Magilton with enough cover in every area and that blend of youth, experience, been there done its and people stepping up with something to prove.

    We've always jumped from one thing to another, spend alot on transfer fees, then only pay high wages, reject lots of money for players then let them go on a free, let players contract run down, give a player with dubious injury record a long term contract. This is just repeated season after season after season. There needs to be some consistency in our approach, I like Paul Cook but this goes beyond him and its happened to every ME manager. I'm far from convinced that we'll get success under him.
     
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  16. itfcptc

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    Too young unfortunately, although given what's happened to the club over the past 16 years, I feel very lucky to have really started following Town at the start of the Burley era, what a time that was. The problem is when you're young watching your home team you think following ipswich will always be like that. We must've lost a whole generation of fans because going to the football the past 10/15 years has been more of a chore than for enjoyment
     
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  17. Bigalreigned

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    I’ve a 17 year old nephew who follows Town home and away,he’s never known any good times,that’s commitment (or is it madness?!)
     
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  18. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    I’m sorry but Paul Lambert’s CV coming into Town was abysmal. The only achievements being with Norwich a decade prior and the fact he had no loyalty to them in itself should have been a red flag.

    I’m talking as much about the appointments in the running of the club as the footballing side.

    Paul Cook is a great appointment. Aside from giving Dyer and Butcher a crack at it he’s the best choice we could have made in these circumstances.
     
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  19. itfcptc

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    I didnt realise Butcher and Dyer had a good CV
     
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  20. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    Better than Lambert’s!
     
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