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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. vimhawk

    vimhawk Well-Known Member

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    Not saying you're wrong, but what evidence do you have.

    And if a very large group of people all decide to stand together in contravention of Covid rules (and medical advice), what would you do about it? And if you say nothing, how do you intend to enforce Covid rules after that?
     
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    While it was peaceful they had to let them be, the level of force was the issue. They could have broken it up earlier in the day without the violence. The decision the Police made with the Rangers fans is an obvious contrast.
     
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    Obviously the angry men of Twitter didn't bother to check...
     
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    Eyewitness testimony

    The initial package they showed had clips of the women shoving officers followed by clips of officers wading in - when there's plentiful evidence of the exact opposite happening, with the women only responding physically after the bully boys started getting heavy handed

    And it's hardly the only example of the BBC doing this. The best known one (which they apologised for...thirty years later) was from Orgreave, where the version of events broadcast was the miners throwing bottles at the police followed by the police charging them, when in reality bottles were thrown after the police charged

    Same goes for the Poll Tax riots, where they showed bottles being thrown followed by the police backing horses into rioters when, again, the two happened in the reverse order
     
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    Suspect you meant the last one the other way round, as it rather defeats your point
     
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    DAMMIT!!!
     
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    Who would have thought that somebody who doesn't even use their real name would be a conman who blew it all on coke and hookers?

    And editors...
     
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    Given the nature of the protest, they should've allowed it to go ahead with social distancing in place.
    It's just another example of the current mob being authoritarian and revelling in anything they can use to stir up the culture war bollocks they're thriving on.

    The police being heavy handed against people making a point about one of them abducting and murdering a woman would normally be seen as a bad thing.
    In this country right now? It's a boon to the party in charge.
     
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    And he squandered the rest, to paraphrase George Best.
     
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    I suspect this Rebel Media interview didn't go quite as planned.
     
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    I'm sure that all parties (political and other) have their agendas about this, and unfortunately the underlying cause may be pushed to one side. So yes the police may have wanted to make a point, but I'm also sure that there were elements in that crowd who wanted to cause a confrontation with the police too. I'd like to think that the original vigil could have gone ahead without confrontation but I'm not so sure. I really think the originally planned vigil might have also ended up out of control. It's a sad day for all concerned, but I really don't think that there is blame to be laid 100% on one side. In order to resolve problems there needs to be more compromise, and unfortunately people have become too polarised, and it doesn't help that people tend to see only social media that supports the views they already have.
     
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    The police's agenda should've been absolute minimal publicity, from their point of view.
    The reputation of the Met took a massive blow when one of their number was (allegedly) revealed to be a murderer.
    If they were being run properly, then they would've tried to avoid getting involved as much as possible.

    Let's assume that there were some elements of the crowd that wanted to start trouble with the police.
    How would they do that without looking obvious and at fault, if the police maintained a sensible distance and let the whole thing fizzle out?
     
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    So you know how Newscorp issued a statement yesterday saying they only paid that private investigator $250 to stalk investigate Meghan Markle?

    Well it turns out that they were being more than a little economical with the truth, as they paid him $250 on more than one occasions, almost as if they were paying him a larger figure but broke it up into smaller payments so they wouldn't have to declare it...
     
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    The real meaning of virtue signalling.
    No need to act in the best interests of the country when you can just create a set that suggests you're a patriot.
    Bonus points for pearl clutching and trying to create a backlash against anyone that points out your disingenuous behaviour.
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    It took the Tories a whole year to come up with this bollocks...
     
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  19. humanbeingincroydon

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    Let's check in with the flag ****ers...

    Okay, so now we know there are GOOD and BAD flags

    Also a dearth of license fee payers west of the Severn
     
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    Tim Davie approves
     
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