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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    That's very perceptive mate.

    People make fortunes from clairvoyancy and Feng Shui if they sound convincing because no one can prove they're wrong.

    Harry is pretending to be outraged and shocked by the slightest possible inference of racism ...

    ... yet thought it was hilarious to dress up as a Nazi.

    Just as well Megan isn't a Jew eh?

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    Wonder if Opra is gonna ask him about that - maybe it was him that was wondering about the babies colour possibly he was worried about his KKK mate. Ffs
     
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  3. Gordon Armstrong

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  4. The Doodler

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    That's an issue of perception. Even Meghan Markle's own father has said it may have been a stupid question rather than racism.

    As I have said earlier, it is a case of context. It may be relatively innocent and I sincerely hope that is the case.


    That particular issue is not going away. Neither the issue of racism in general. Racism is a serious issue in our society but our approach to it needs to be handled in a similar way to our approach to mental health.

    I agree. Both issues need to be taken seriously and those who face adversity need to be supported and listened to


    The issue of Andrew's sexual preferences will not go away, This is very true

    Speculations regarding Harry's DNA test result will not go away IMO Harry is the spitting image of Charles. Many of Diana's family are ginger. The Hewitt link is malicious speculation.

    Possibly true, however in the Harry's case it could have been decisive! <laugh>

    The fascination with the Royals and media attention it receives will not go away Certainly won't

    The speculation that our Royals are a bunch of aristocratic gentry, way out of touch with 'people' as they desperately try to cling onto some sort of Victorian Standard and live some kind of weirdo lifestyle in the process. Aren't people entitled to live their lives they way they want?

    It depends: the police, teachers, health workers and numerous other people are paid from the 'public purse' and all could lose their job for their behaviour if they do something that contravenes a moral standard


    Also the view that they're a bunch of public purse scroungers can also be heard. There's a very strong counter-argument to this regarding tourist interest and the function they play as representatives on the international stage.

    I'm not saying they are. I'm just saying this opinion has now been stirred by anti-royalists


    Further the Royal Family actually own Canada, have Mining Rights in Australia and is the representative head of state in 16 countries including many non white communities. That issue isn't going away either. What's wrong with that? Many countries have actively sought to join the commonwealth, many are very happy being members.

    It is important because they represent Britain and the Brand Royal is paid for by the taxpayer. To say that The Queen et al brings in enormous revenue is true, however the ER attraction is a national asset and the revenue attributed to Buckingham Palace visits, the Crown Jewels and the Changing of the Guard should be Our Nations Money and not automatically placed on the Queen plus column. In truth, the money the country earns from Brand Royal' is muddy and difficult to define, as is a Land of tradition and castles without a monarchy and a public tax bill. tourists would still flock here with or without Elizabeth and the impact on revenue with Britain The Republic cannot be known.


    There will always be people who don't like the royal family. Those people will always look for anything to criticise them.

    The issue is that

    I agree that people will draw lines based on what they believe. On one side there are Republicans and on the other Royalists, I'm not sure that's 'the issue' though

    For me the issue is that Brand Royal is also Brand Everyone in Britain. their conduct effects us all, in particular our image abroad.

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  5. The Norton Cat

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    I agree with your last point, for the most. Which is why I think this interview is so concerning. They have made some implications (because the language used in the interview was very carefully selected so that in reality nothing explicit was actually stated) that could have serious consequences for the Royal family but much of which doesn't ring true, to me, on the basis of what I've heard previously about them.

    Many people seem to be accepting the story without question. I don't think we should do that.
     
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  6. Disco down under

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    Wasn't Pericles overseeing democracy in Athens about 2500-3000 years ago?
     
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    Yes, but apparently no one considers that to be the oldest democracy because Athens was a city state not a country in the modern sense and because it hasn't been continuous. Which seems a bit picky to me.
     
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    Wow, the knowledge of posters on here
     
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  10. Disco down under

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    I'm most definitely no one in that situation.
     
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  11. The Norton Cat

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    I'd agree!
     
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    Superb effort by Rod Liddle this week. Beyond a paywall , so I'll copy it in for anyone interested.

    Caroline Rose Giuliani, the daughter of the former mayor of New York, Rudy, has been talking to the press about one of her hobbies. Apparently she likes nothing more than playing the role of a ‘unicorn’ — the third partner in a sexual liaison. She explained: ‘Finding the strength to explore these more complicated, passionate aspects of my personality became the key to harnessing my voice and creative spark, which in turn helped me better cope with depression, anxiety, and the lingering cognitive effects of adolescent anorexia.’ This is a fascinating approach to curing eating disorders, I think. Caroline’s dad, if you remember, is unable to tuck his shirt into his trousers without lying down on a bed and obtaining assistance from a young lady. They are a very interesting family.

    Incidentally, I had often wondered why the Scottish national animal is a unicorn, seeing as it has even less basis in reality than their aspirations for an independent currency. But having learned via Caroline the other meaning of the word, and watched the various SNP scandals unfold, I now understand. They are all at it like knives, up there — every hour that God


    Reading Caroline’s explanation for why she likes to go out shagging strangers, you are immediately beckoned into the modern American psyche. Such epic, almost heroic, self-obsession and narcissism, plus pretentiousness and a healthy side order of acquired victimhood. And the overriding message: I will do what I want and you will not judge me. Au contraire, Caroline — over here, in the UK, we will, because we’re like that and come at the story from a different perspective.

    The USA is the least communalistic and most individualistic nation of any on Earth. It is written into their Declaration of Independence that an individual’s right to the pursuit of happiness trumps, if I can use the word, every other consideration. It is all a little alien to us over here, which is one reason why we tend to find Meghan Markle a repulsive creature. What the ghastly Oprah Winfrey and indeed Hillary Clinton do not understand is that if there was any resentment towards Meghan in the UK, it was not because she is of mixed race, but because she is American and behaves like a caricature of a particularly stupid American. The colour of her skin matters not a jot: it is the noisome ordure which spews out of her mouth on a daily basis that grates. Again, the narcissism and self-obsession and the acquired victimhood, the vapid and banal attempts at self-justification.


    Similarly, Markle was asked about ‘her’ truth. People don’t have their own truth. There is truth and there is falsehood, and there’s an end to it. But once more, the native ideology devolves the concept of truth down to the individual level, regardless of whether it is truth at all. It is from America that we have imported the morally and rationally bereft progressive ideology that insists that if people feel they have been victimised, then they have been. And that everybody can be whatever they want to be, regardless of the facts. Elevate the individual — beyond reason, beyond government, beyond God — and this is what you get: a D-list sleb who married well thinking she has been victimised and is in possession of a ‘truth’ which runs counter to the truth.

    The cultural divide broadens still further when we consider Oprah Winfrey, one of America’s greatest mysteries. But boy, does she have hauteur and dominion. It is very difficult for us to understand why the Yanks so revere the woman. She is an appalling interviewer, seemingly utterly incurious, every question submitted for approval and the answers rehearsed over and over again. Ill-informed, incapable of asking an interesting question, always slightly more regal than whoever it is she is interviewing. There is no intellect on display, just a perpetual desire to paddle about in the shallows, or indeed barely skim the surface, of the subjects before her. But then she subscribes to the same inane ideology — that Meghan Markle has a truth that is equally valid to the truth, and who is she to question that validity? Anti-journalism. It was rumoured she might one day run for office. I think she’d be perfect for the east and west coast voters, a conduit of witless acceptance of every meaningless liberal shibboleth to which those deluded people subscribe.

    So — who asked about Archie’s skin colour, then? Not naming the supposed miscreant was another act of self-indulgence and cowardice from Meghan and Harry. Besmirch the entire royal family by not providing a name. My suspicion is that most of the royals were just anxious to know if Archie was going to be a ginger. That’s ‘my’ truth, and I’m sticking to it. Please, America — do one thing for your old ally. Shepherd these two grasping halfwits into total obscurity.

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    Spectator editor and Sun columnist,?

    Is he not?
     
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    Not sure about the Sun, but he is associate Ed at the Spectator, formerly of the BBC and formerly long time Labour Party member and supporter.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    His comments about Oprah Winfrey couldn't be more accurate ...

    ... she's absolutely dreadful.

    No better than Lorraine Kelly tbh, perhaps not even that good.
     
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    Quite right, but by all accounts Lorraine Kelly is a nice, likable person. Oprah, I'm not sure she even has a personality. She's just "there" like a tree or a pond in a field or a traffic island. Important because people say they are and have been there a long time, but can't give a reason of what use they really are.
     
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    Ouch Smug what's Loraine Kelly ever done that would link her into the same sentence with Oprah who is the undefeated Queen of nothingness in the US of A.
     
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  18. Gordon Armstrong

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    Not to mention “My little Paki friend” :emoticon-0132-envy:

    He was by far the worst of the young’uns, maybe worse than Phil.

    This new stereotype of everyone in the UK being racist probably comes from him covering his arse.

    “It wasn’t me Meg! Everyone I know is a Nazi! I only did it to fit in!”
     
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    guess who was never so flabbered in all her ghast


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