I don't know about the banks thing but i imagine it depends what sort of nurse is required. There are obviously qualified nurses and then unqualified ones. I imagine you can't just replace qualified nurses with people wanting to be a nurse (unless we hire them from overseas, in this case probably the phillipines).
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I don't know about the banks thing but i imagine it depends what sort of nurse is required. There are obviously qualified nurses and then unqualified ones. I imagine you can't just replace qualified nurses with people wanting to be a nurse (unless we hire them from overseas, in this case probably the phillipines).
It’s not just about the money, it’s about the pressure of the current workload within the service. Constantly under staffed wards, often breaking protocols for minimum cover, for which the nurses themselves can lose their pins over. Feeling pressured and often obliged to work extra shifts in order to cover shortfalls, meaning they can end up working a mixture of days, nights and 12 hour shifts.
As far as I’m aware applications for places has never been the issue, it’s that the number of places within the university sector were constantly too low. Leaving the system reliant on importing trained labour from elsewhere. An issue that’s been around for decades I believe.
Nurses won’t walk out on strike en masse, they join the profession as they want to care for people. It’s a hollow threat. The system would collapse if they simply refused all overtime, and so I doubt they’ll do that either. As I said, the system is running on goodwill, and the leaving rates clearly show the pressure of the understaffing, combined with the **** pay rates, is making many just think, **** it, I don’t need this.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-nurse-numbers-continue-rising-with-13840-more-than-last-year
I think you're quoting media hyped figures.
I'm not questioning the work Nurses do but I think £200bn is enough for the NHS to care for the population. If the Nurses need more money then the NHS should find it out of the money we give them.
It seems only Band 5 won't get a 4.4% pay rise this year.
The Nursing Unions need to speak to the NHS not the Press.
I think you're quoting media hyped figures.
I'm not questioning the work Nurses do but I think £200bn is enough for the NHS to care for the population. If the Nurses need more money then the NHS should find it out of the money we give them.
It seems only Band 5 won't get a 4.4% pay rise this year.
The Nursing Unions need to speak to the NHS not the Press.
Better tell the catering department to stop serving so much cabbage
Your too close to the subject
Step back a bit and think
I just wonder
Sir Tom Moore raised 33-40 mil
For the nhs through public donations, just wonder what would be raised now
Underpaid nurses.
This has been headlining since I was old enough to read.
They signed up for the job, allways get paid will get a pension etc.
It's just that they pull a heart string, bit like a sick puppie.
Millions of other people have to wear uniforms do **** shifts and work in hard conditions.
Builders, welders, truckies etc etc even the chippies.
Press just love this stuff, they have a strong union and thanks to brexit do not have much competion for being replaced.
This has been headlining since I was old enough to read.
They signed up for the job, allways get paid will get a pension etc.
It's just that they pull a heart string, bit like a sick puppie.
Millions of other people have to wear uniforms do **** shifts and work in hard conditions.
Builders, welders, truckies etc etc even the chippies.
Press just love this stuff, they have a strong union and thanks to brexit do not have much competion for being replaced.
If it’s a hollow threat then don’t make it, it’s doing untold damage to the nursing profession
The budget announced payrise is 1% across the board from what I can see, if you’ve seen otherwise, then I’d be interested to read it.
The NHS budget isn’t £200BN, it was £148BN last year the additional £50BN was COVID related for PPE etc
Except they can't claim for a set of headphones,laptop,phone,etc etc...I looked up our ex MP and he had 12 claims on his expenses for £1 during his time, and he wasn't in the house long....a bleeding quid now go tell my daughter that she doesn't deserve more than 1% who has to pay even to friggin park at work and that's a 5 minute walk away not at the doorstep, nah the people want to look at the snouts that are really in the trough...OINK
No, I’m not too close to the subject, that’s just a lazy assumption. I merely understand it and not just due to my own daughters experience either.
Tom Moore raised money for NHS charities, quite what you think the relevance of that is, I have no idea.
Having to pay to park at work is wrong.
If my memory serves me correctly
It was a red coloured party who brought this in but I stand to be corrected
Actually after Brexit there could be more competition. We can hire from anywhere now with our points system
It was their pay deal from 2018. I believe it was called Agenda for Change (not sure though)
In my opinion even £148bn is plenty but where has the extra £50bn gone?
As was mentioned earlier I think a bonus payment for front line staff would be a very good idea out of this £50bn
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