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Match Day Thread General matchday thread.

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    And that needs to be addressed. People learn from what they see on the TV. Forcing the players to be respectful to the officials is a necessity.
     
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  3. BobbyD

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    i'm sure the disrepectfulness doesn't help but it's deeper than that. The number of people who play football and the sort of people who play it. Anyone can play it and you only need a couple of players from each side who are hooligans to start giving it all that. It's not a bad thing that anyone can play it, but with so many matches and the general lack of respect for anyone it's ineivitable really.

    I don't know why Rugby is so different (havent watched grassroots), maybe because they are trained more military like?
     
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    The thing is though that it’s there to correct clear and obvious errors. Today it did exactly that by correcting the wrong decision to award a penalty and a red card. The other incident wasn’t considered a pen by the ref and the VAR official obvs didn’t think it was a clear and obvious error.

    Without VAR today, Burnley would have been robbed of a point, the FA would have rescinded the red card next week, but it wouldn't have got them their point back.
     
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    Cracking goal that
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    It's because it's part of the rules.
    Just make it so that only the captains can initiate conversations with the ref and that they still have to be civil and respectful.
    Chuck some cards around at the start and that'll be the end of it.

    You'd have to be a **** to want to be a ref at the moment, so the refs are all ****s.
     
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    It's the inconsistency that ****s me off though.

    Yes it got that right today by reversing the pen and red card, but it ****ed up by not pulling up the first handball, which under the current rules should have been awarded.
     
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    Its slipping in Rugby but still miles better than football . Rugby enforced respect by the 10 yard/metre rule where if a decision was questioned the free kick / Pen was moved up the pitch by that amount but some of it was it was just the ethos of the game - don't forget until , by my standards anyway ,recently Rugby Union was amateur .
     
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    Good Leicester lad is Che... very nearly came through our academy ... born in Thurnby Lodge. <cheers>
     
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    and i thought Che was born in Argentina .
     
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    By coming through Coventry's! <laugh>
     
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    ... that's Guarana mate ... not Adams <cheers>
     
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    I only saw the other one after the game, it was one of them that if it’s given it’s harsh but you see them given.

    The issue at the minute with VAR imo is that they still haven’t got the balance right between correcting obvious mistakes and re-refereeing the game. When I watch CL games that balance appears to be much better and the decisions made much quicker.

    It’ll evolve and improve over time imo, it’s defo not going in the bin.
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Billy Sharp is on. 249 career goals and he used to play for Southampton.
    Can he get to 250 and make it interesting? Probably not.
     
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    ... indeed ... respect to the lad ... sometimes you have to set your sights and if you can't make it at the top, look somewhere more modest and try again ... he ain't alone ... many have had to before him ...

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    Fully agree ...
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Picking a player who's scored 16 goals against you and will end up as your most prolific opponent probably isn't a good luck, to be honest.
     
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    Under the current rules the first one today should have been given.

    The rules are changing next season so that accidental handballs are not given as pens, but the rules as they stand should have flagged a VAR call for the ref to look at it and had he applied the rule it would have been given, and likely 3 points for us.

    It is an evolving piece of technology, but for me at the end of the day it still comes down to subjectivity and therefore it's never going to eradicate mistakes. People can say it should only look at the clear and obvious mistakes that need addressing, but using today's example again when subjectively it chose not to even ask the ref to look at it, it's always going to be flawed.

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    Greedy from Adams. Easy tap-in for Armstrong, if he passes that. Won't matter, of course, but the Austrian won't be happy.
     
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    No-look handball. <ok>
     
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