The point is that as his name i known and we know the findings will be published. He will under intense scrutiny.
Takeover (Covid-19/20)
- Thread starter RobEllious
- Start date
-
Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
-
The point is that as his name i known and we know the findings will be published. He will under intense scrutiny.
Who's on their side though? I don't doubt that demarco and her are aces, but I suspect this is a clash of the titans and it could go either way.
I hope it doesn't get that far
But does Saudi Law even matter in the case of a Uk arbitration. It may sway a chair but it’s all hearsay.
The weird thing is for me. It’s not a matter of fact that the control issue exists. Just because the state own PIF and that they would own a company who would own nufc (three levels of separation) doesn’t factually mean the state “would make any decisions”. The fact is that I suppose “they might”.......
It comes down to this - establish that PIF are separate then the directors of PIF will sail through the ODT as they have nothing to do with piracy.
If PIF and KSA are the same that brings state sponsored piracy into play. Piracy was made part of the test by Beloff QC, the chair, back in 2017. That becomes problematic.
If PIF and KSA are the same that brings state sponsored piracy into play. Piracy was made part of the test by Beloff QC, the chair, back in 2017. That becomes problematic.
Yes indeed. But as a direct result they are using a fallacy non factual based argument to deny the takeover.
And that is where I worry. I can’t logically see how you can split PIF and KSA.
I'm not sure about that personally because PIF has a certain chairman who controls the state and PIF.
I'm just an idiot in the street, but there's your link.
De Marco and Shaheed must be very confident of proving separation.
Surely if the KSA day is separate then it is separate? It's not for another body to decide otherwise?
I'm hoping this supposed loss was actually a win. I'm hoping the aim was to let the premier league know win or lose you're being exposed and that they've been so underhand they're now forced to reach an agreement.
I take the converse view tbh. As if they were supremely confident of being able to prove either definitively or on the balance of probability, that there was genuine separation between the investment fund and the State, then they’re not legging it to the High Court to try and have a panel member removed and to have the entire process carried out in the full glare of the public. They’d just turn up, slap their case on the table and smile smugly imo.
So this smacks of grandstanding to me. Trying to increase the pressure on the PL in the hope that they’ll either fold or agree some form of compromise before or during the process.
That's the issue. The PL are trying to tell Saudi lawmakers that their arguments are bollocks.
Possibly. There may be a compromise to avoid the arbitration.
PIF stands for Public Investment Fund. The fund itself is for the KSA public. Not for the government officials and not for MBS.
I suppose the piracy issue was a government issue. They let it happen. PIF was not involved in that. PIF is a separate legal entity. It just so happens that the chair is MBS.
Possibly. Playing the only card left maybe? And the PL would surely see right through that.
It’s more or less a last chance form of blackmail. Let us have our club or else we spill all the beans in public.
Seems to me that nufc fans have convinced themselves the case is open and shut in their favour and the people that don't want it can't see how nufc can win it.
I feel its a classic case of emotional decision making. The human brain makes its decisions based on emotional preference and then looks for evidence to justify it's emotional choice.
The reality here imo is that this could go either way if it goes to arbitration, but I feel one side will fold prior.
I feel its a classic case of emotional decision making. The human brain makes its decisions based on emotional preference and then looks for evidence to justify it's emotional choice.
The reality here imo is that this could go either way if it goes to arbitration, but I feel one side will fold prior.
If there is a folding it will be the PL.
If nufc thought they would lose would still try arbitration