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England manager should be ENGLISH...

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. Chondzoresk

    Chondzoresk Member

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    I am Ipswich and England......I have pride in both.....and feel a little surprised by those who have little interest.....I am English...therefore my weight goes behind the English team....I wear the cross of St George with pride.....if you have a problem with this then please visit me!
     
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  2. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    Having a foreign manager in some of the less competitive countries can really raise the profile and improve the side so I don't think it should be outlawed completely, only for the major nations. You could ban it for anyone who's qualified for at least 4 World Cups...
     
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  3. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    I have little interest in the So called England team because it is not really an England team IMO, if your happy to go on cheering for an Italian and telling yourself that its more important to win than to 'IMO' play with integrity.

    But thats just me..........
     
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  4. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    I don't think its about integrity, its not about taking the higher ground. At the end of the day its football and really international football should be building a team from your own country, including the manager and coaches otherwise its a bit like club football.

    Weighty how do you feel about a scouser being in charge of Ipswich???
     
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  5. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> ptc you've opened a whole can of worms there!

    I don't think it's as straight forward as nationality. People will usually have one claim to nationality, sometimes 3 or 4.

    But when it comes to having an allegiance to a club it's a different matter. You have a Scot in charge of Liverpool at the moment who has more of a claim to that club than our own manager who was born on Merseyside!

    Who would I be allowed to manage? I've not lived in Ipswich for over a decade and over my lifetime I'm likely to spend three times longer living outside the county as I did in it. But
    my club will always be Ipswich.

    My one year old nephew is a Yorkshire lad who will often be seen sporting an Ipswich Town shirt - yet he's spent only a few hours in the town itself. Are you going to force him to manage Leeds United? Or can he manage Ipswich due to his parentage?

    Connor Wickham and Darren Bent would never have been allowed to play for the club and Kieron Dyer would've been on the Portman Road treatment table draining our resources for the past five years.

    I need not mention all the players who would've never been adorned with the Suffolk Punch but worse still Sir Bobby never would've set foot in the home dugout.

    We'd have Richard Wright and Arran Lee Barrett as our goalkeeping options.

    Still think it's a good idea?!
     
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  6. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    lol Hamps I wasn't expecting that response!!

    It was a very ambigious question that I didn't really expect anyone to answer. I was just trying to be clever :)

    But I do agree with you, it doesn't matter where you come from to play for a club, manage a club support a club. IMO people can chose who they support for whatever reasons although its always nicer if you support your local team whether that be where you were born or where you currently live, same goes for players and managers it seems to make the club feel more personal if you promote from within or have alot of local lads. But this is getting less and less likely nowadays with the amount of people moving about in their lives.
     
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  7. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    Trust me I would love to live in Suffolk. As far as somewhere to live and the people there there isn't anywhere I'd rather be. But career-wise in the region I'd be so limited (unless I commuted to London which would be hell) that it's sadly just not an option.

    I had always wanted someone connected to the club to manage us, ive always thought someone coming in just won't get what the club is about - but amazingly Paul Jewell gets it perfectly and has got the Ipswich Town spirit absolutely bang on.

    With Capello you can see that he knows how to put a football team out, but that England spirit and passion and putting your body on your line for the cause has completely gone missing and replaced with embarrassment and apology.
     
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  8. sparrowfarmer

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    redknapp for england manager i say. we would still not be good enough to compete with the likes of spain but it would be nice to see some passion in the side.
     
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  9. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    Club football is completely different, although it would be nice in an ideal world to have Ipswich Town managed by an Ipswich man with 11 ipswich lads on the pitch, Thinking about it i think it would help the national team if this was the case.

    International football should be one nation against another not ANY MANAGER USING THE RESOURCES OF ONE NATION TO TAKE ON ANOTHER NATION.
     
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  10. fieldmarshall

    fieldmarshall Well-Known Member

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    I m not really that bothered about international football, I only care about one team and thats ITFC, I havent got a second favourite team or a favourite Scottish or foreign team. But supposing England had won the world cup and won the upcoming Euro Nations cup, would anyone really care if the manager was English, foreign, or an alien?
     
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  11. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    Yes i would.....unless he is English its meaningless.....
     
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  12. fieldmarshall

    fieldmarshall Well-Known Member

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    Ok Plum fair comment.
     
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