Coronavirus

Not that this is a Brexit thread but going back to the EU funding and such like, same applies to Wales as Cornwall.

Loads of EU funding here, a load to farmers etc., and still Wales voted more or less unanimously for Brexit.

And they would vote unanimously to stay as part of the UK too, there is no desire for independence here.

At all.

 

Unless you’ve been fortunate enough to be assymptomatic or simply fortunate. People generally aren’t running around licking each other.

 

I've not had it, I had an antibody test.

What I've done is avoid it. By pretty much toeing the line to everything dictated to us.

It's pretty clear that there's a whole load of people who just haven't, and they've helped spread the thing at any given opportunity.

 

No oil to fund the independence like Scotland have.....oh, hold on.

 

I quite like shellfish myself, but what you tend to get in our supermarkets is of poor quality or often overpriced. So when I hear the fisherman are crying I tend to have little sympathy. It's a bit like selling it to the Germans, for them to ship it back to the UK for display in ALDI. The world's gone fooking mad. I'm sure there are plenty of UK consumers that would buy the produce. I heard the other day some guy who had done well out of the market was shutting up shop and he was making THREE people redundant. Oh please ffs cry me a river. Still if we aint fishing, it allows the environmental impact of mass trawling to repair itself, I can't account for what the EU might do.

 

I've been working through it all too.

Mentioned it before, but last summer Cornwall was packed. I was out working at markets and events (those that were on) and in the main, people observed the rules, wore masks, sanitised their hands, stuck to their bubbles and did what they could to minimise the risk. Low and behold, Cornwall didn't have a massive spike of cases after the summer.

Contrast that with an associate of mine who went on a pub crawl on christmas eve, caught covid, passed it on to her elderly relative who spent 3 weeks in hospital and narrowly avoided a short and sweet spell in ICU on a ventilator.

 

Yeah but Something, something Cummings.....

My Mrs picked it up through work, she is a key worker so knows the risk. But any **** who has been furloughed and isolated....if they caught it then they haven't followed the rules

 

This is nonsense though. You can’t help someone coughing on you in Asda or catching it off your kid who’s been at school. It’s not as cut and dry as Wales unanimously 52% voting for Brexit.

 

You only had to look at Christmas shoppers in London, Manchester and it's fairly obvious that those folk milling about in their thousands outside not wearing masks would have been spreading it like wildfire.

They were outside though so, no mask. No worries if if you're cheek by jowl with every other Tom, Dick and Harry!

 

I think we've pussy footed around this topic for way to long and allowed people an easy cop out, by blaming everyone apart from themselves.

They didn't follow the rules, that's why they are in hospital, or at the very least they made a poor judgement. Not only did they do that, but they also took the bed of someone, they also may have taken an ambulance of someone, or a nurse of someone, or a doctor of someone, or a consultant of someone, who can now not have admission to hospital because all the beds and wards are taken up by covid patients.

 

yeah eat out help out was a disaster. Fk all 2do with the Xmas dinner ....my views are if we was gonna borrow from that magic money tree Tories said didn’t exist, maybe they could have used the borrowing for businesses that needed the help and should have not been given to Tory friends Instead.

weve been fking rinsed and some ****s on here are trying to defend these repulsive Zionist filth in government........makes me fking sick

 

A lot of the fishermen down here, the smaller outfits at least, started selling their fish directly to the public. I get mine that way anyway as I know a fisherman so I can get it fresh from the boat. I think it was a bit of a wake up call for a lot of people, that they don't actually need to go through several middle men to sell their fish, and as you say the ludicrous practice of selling it to foreign markets, for it then to be frozen, packed and shipped back to the UK to sit on supermarket shelves.

That only seemed to work for the small guys though. I know one of the biggest fishing families in Newlyn, they've got a fleet of trawlers and they are a massive operation. They voted for Brexit and have been royally ****ed over because of the simple fact that most of the fish they land is sold into the EU. To me it seems obvious that if you try to restrict access for foreign boats to 'protect' UK waters for UK fishermen, then the EU will impose tariffs on the exports caught in those waters.

The one upside as you say, is that fish stocks and perhaps more damaging, dredging will have less of an impact as the UK fishing industry takes a hit.

 

yep sometimes it was unavoidable , particularly with the new variant , but then lots of other stuff was just pure idiocy .

 

Easy bro.

All good in da hood?

 

I don't really know what the actual figures are, but certain regions it was unanimous, mainly rural. Ergo the farmers. But hey, you know better.

What the **** has that got to do with anything though, you ****ing arsehole, other than to try to have a dig at me, ****?

Oh, and of course people can have accidentally caught it.

However, it has been massively helped along by people ignoring it.

But, but the government and that.

In the meantime, just **** off you utterly tedious prick.

 

Nice.

You threw in a completely wrong comment on Wales’ vote on Brexit which I corrected lightheartedly while also replying to someone else. Happy to help. I didn’t even need to mention the government.

 

I think as we have both highlighted, the end goal of selling the produce has been shocking for decades. The fisherman only have themselves to blame, were they really interested in the British consumer before Brexit, because if they were, I missed it. As much the supermarkets to blame as well, aside from ALDI because I know their methods are different to the norm and at least try and do things differently. Even so they also could still cut out the middle men.

 

we don't buy much UK caught shellfish for some reason . We buy titchy little frozen prawns while trucks charge down the country to get langoustine to Paris markets



go figure .

 

I threw in a random comment that Wales voted for Brexit without specifying in great detail, because I didn't think it that necessary, that the rural farming community had shot itself in the foot and you responded with your usual smart arse snide dig.

I know what you are, just go **** yourself.

 

Only there are no tariffs being imposed on fish / seafood being sold into the EU. What’s changed is that we’re now having to follow the rules for being a 3rd country exporting to the EU, as we've left the single market and customs union, and with that, comes a mountain of paperwork and certification. Which for an extremely time sensitive product like live shellfish is difficult, as any delays means the entire load can be rejected when it arrives at the other end.

The fishing industry is up in arms about it, especially some of the mouth pieces who wanged on about FISH during the entire debacle, but this issue hasn’t been caused by the ‘deal’, it’s merely the reality of Brexit. It’s literally what we voted for.