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Lee Bowyer has a nice plot - but he has resigned

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  1. Sat In Greenwich

    Sat In Greenwich Well-Known Member

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    from what i've heard, it's jacko who takes the defensive training. so if it's blame game time...

    LB needs to win the next 3 or 4 otherwise he could justifiably be under pressure. he's had months to fix the defence. it's his squad now.

    i hope he wins them.
     
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  2. ElfsborgAddick

    ElfsborgAddick Well-Known Member

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    Ivor is never happy.
    But then he used to be a scout and knows his football.
     
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    Smudger603 Well-Known Member

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    I’d like to see how he’d do if he took charge for 5 minutes , a lot of people think they could do a better job <doh>
     
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  4. CafcFactsStats

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    He’s ok until the end of the season but if we are not promoted then it would not surprise us that there will be a change.

    It’s a results business and anyone else not with a Charlton connection (eg: Robinson, Parkinson) would have had people screaming for them to be sacked a few games ago.

    However he does have credits in the bank from the last 3 years but he looks and is making tired decisions now.

    Fingers crossed that the form improves for him
     
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  5. The Pub Landlord

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    The language on ITTV is pretty foul.

    I would fully expect that the squad additions and the absence of a centre half were all approved by Roddy.

    I doubt that Bowyer and Gallen took a calculated gamble on not signing a defender without discussion and approval.
     
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  6. lardiman

    lardiman We can rebuild him
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    The next 4 or 5 games will show us whether the January window has been productive.
    Barring freak injuries (God forbid) I hope we'll see some improvement.

    Maybe even an unbeaten run of draws & wins?
    Gotta keep hoping we can stay in touch with the top 6, especially as other teams play their games in hand.

    Oxford are like a runaway train at the moment. What are they putting in those water bottles? :emoticon-0165-muscl
    Ipswich have imploded <laugh>
     
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  7. ElfsborgAddick

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    Some fans are clueless.

    On Charlton Unofficial fbook two weeks ago I had a pleasant exchange with a youngster.

    He admitted that if Bowyer had been sacked and replaced with whoever else and they did not get us in the play offs, they should also be outed!!!

    Priceless.
     
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  8. lardiman

    lardiman We can rebuild him
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    Spot on.

    Imagine if Curbs came back, had a bit of bad luck and Charlton missed out on the top 6.
    He'd get dogs abuse on social media, and demands that he be sacked.

    In fact the abuse would start the second time he lost a game.

    There are Liverpool fans out there who want Klopp sacked <laugh>
    They're only Champions of England for the first time in 30 years...
     
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  9. ForestHillBilly

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    The disrespect for Sandgaard is unforgivable.
     
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  10. ElfsborgAddick

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    No Sandgaard, no Charlton.
     
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  11. Dick Plumb1

    Dick Plumb1 Well-Known Member

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    I am one of those people that think it is time for a change. There is nothing I would like more than Bowyer being successful, but we can't go on the way we are indefinitely.
    I believe that Jackson handles the defenders. As a midfielder I find this strange. Perhaps, like the Rugby, we can hire a defence coach to help Jackson. This would not be a permanent appointmen.
     
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  12. Ken Shabby

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    To be honest, there were a few individual errors (as usual) that it is impossible for Bowyer to do anything about - there was a pass by Gunter straight to a Pompey midfielder that a ten year old would be miserable about, as one example. And it keeps happening.
    But we're starting to repeat all the errors of that direnovember to january period, where players who have a good gfame (Millar at MK Dons being a good example) get dropped to the bench for an important match like the one on tuesday. The subs seem to be preplanned regardless of what is going on on the pitch (Aneke coming on spot on the 60th minute). Bowyer said Millar was being rested, which makes it odd he dragged him off the bench to chase a lost cause.
    I don't want to lose Bowyer, especially as some knee-jerk reaction to a (long) series of pretty naff performances. But I do want him to radically change this tinkering he is now locked into. He needs to find a system and a best XI. 'Bowyer makes four changes tonight' is becoming the standard intro to every match, and perfomances are backing the people who want him out.
     
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  13. CafcFactsStats

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  14. lardiman

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    I think once you win a game with a decent performance, you don't change your starting XI unless injuries or suspensions force you to.
    Players who are on a run of winning games don't moan about being tired. They want more.

    Not rocket science, but this apparent obsession with rotating that Bowyer shares with some other managers is mystifying.
     
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  15. The Penguin

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    To be fair, if a player is good enough Bowyer will keep him in the team. He would have kept the same back 5 given a chance. No striker so far has really staked a claim to a starting spot, although Stockley may change that. It's in the midfield that things get really messy.
     
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  16. Miketyson2007isback

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    Weirdly in our promotion season he wasnt tinker man you played well you stayed in
     
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  17. ForestHillBilly

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    Smaller squad. The team picked itself mostly.
     
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  18. TC (Lovely Geezer)

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    Currently, Charlton have made more halftime subs than any team in Europe.
     
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  19. lardiman

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    This 5 substitutes business doesn't help.

    Substitutions should be for injuries only, not tactics. Like in the good old days.
    During our most successful period, a decade and a half in the top flight, we made no substitutions at all.
    Neither did anyone else.

    Players were real men in those days.
    In a 42 game season (sometimes with 3 games played in 4 days) teams would only finish the game with 10 men - due to an injured player not being able to carry on - half a dozen times on average.

    Nobody rotated their squads.
     
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  20. ElfsborgAddick

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    Your point being oh loveable lion?
     
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