I don't agree with your second paragraph except that's it's been a shambles. An airborne pandemic has long been anticipated by leading medics, scientists and other authorities such as Bill Gates. Governments around the world have been preparing for such an event. In 2016, Exercise Cygnus was conducted - a simulation of a virus outbreak. The report in to this study was eventually published last October after months of obfuscation and evasion of transparency by BunglingBoris &co. Some data is believed to have been 'misplaced', but the conclusion was that the UK didn't have the plans, policies or capability to cope with a severe pandemic. It also warned of a crisis in care homes. The government claimed it had acted on the report's recommendations. It had not. More lies. The pandemic committee which had been set up many years earlier to facilitate a quick response to a pandemic, was suspended by May and then abolished by FiddlingBoris a few days after becoming PM. The reason for this was so the Cabinet could devote nore time and resources to brexit. All this happened under the watch of May and BlunderingBoris in the immediate months before the pandemic hit. This government's obsession with brexit has had a huge detrimental impact on their handling of the pandemic. I firmy believe that a government under the leadership of Milliband, Cameron, Clegg, Burnham and, yes, even Corbyn, would have resulted in an infinitely better response to Covid19.
Steve, interesting that nearly all your posts have been in the Mass Murderer thread. If only we could find one for you...
Worse than that, it’s not just professional football, Newcastle Utd have been at it as well. Which isn’t even football by most people’s standards, and as for entertaining; not so much
How can anyone compare New Zealand to UK for Covid stats.UK and NZ roughly the same size but we have a population of 68M compared to NZ 5m. They do not have towns the size of Liverpool, Stoke, Manchester, Leicester Birmingham etc. London alone has a population of 8m It's like comparing chalk and cheese. Scotland has a similar population to NZ and look how wee Jimmy Krankie has handled Covid, shamefully. Is that Boris Johnson's fault, NO. Did Labour Assembly in Wales do any better? No. Complete lockdown and cases rose even higher. No one could have done any better at handling this tragic event, instead of each goin alone they should have all joined forces and worked together using an agreed plan rather than points scoring. Let us remember 67m haven't got covid.
What’s laughable is the ****s who listen to the scum media and get sucked in my their agendas (on politics and other matters). Andrew Neil’s channel cannot come quick enough. we need impartiality again.
It’s just a poor excuse to blame politicians for the number of deaths. It’s people who pass on the virus not policies or systems or rules. Yes the Government (not just Boris) have made mistakes. Yes they could have acted more quickly at certain times. Ultimately though it was a lose lose scenario. Hindsight is a wonderful thing it’s just a pity we don’t get it until after something has occurred. I can’t see any other Country with equivalent population and land area which has done any better. The Government had to balance action against the virus with maintaining an economy in a situation which nobody had experience of. Course they were going to make mistakes. People on the other hand knew very early on what was required to beat the virus. How did we as a population do? Very poorly. Everyone knows people who just didn’t abide by the rules, who seemed to think they didn’t apply to them, those who would bend the rules just this once. Mixed messages from the Government the cause. Garbage. Everyone knew what was required. People are to blame for the virus spreading, no two ways about it. Sadly, we have a culture now where we have to blame someone else whenever anything goes wrong. We as a Society don’t want to accept responsibility for our actions, it’s always somebody else’s fault. It is sad so many have died. There was always going to be too many deaths. Why can’t we all just accept we all collectively made mistakes and that those in charge did what they believed was the right thing to do at the time that they did it instead of trying to make a scapegoat of some people who had to make some unbelievably hard decisions some of which were right and sadly some of which were wrong but were made in good faith. To do otherwise is just lying to ourselves.
Well put. this crisis has brought out the best in people (NHS) and the worst. it’s hard to express how angry I am at those cowards who hide behind ‘confusion’ or ‘civil liberties’ to excuse their disgusting disregard for the lives of their fellow brits. The press are culpable too. **** scared of turning the spotlight on the ravers and house party goers for fear of a backlash.. but it’s easy for them to have a pop at the politicians as they can’t bite back. That’s almost akin to bullying.
This is one of the biggest fallacies out there. You don't wear a mask to protect yourself from getting infected. Masks have limited effectiveness in stopping people catching the virus. They do decrease the chance of catching it, but not by that much. You wear a mask to stop you spreading the virus. Masks are very effective in stopping the spread of infectious diseases. So the people anti maskers are putting at risk is everyone except themselves. It's different with anti vaxxers. They are putting themselves at risk. However, if enough people choose not to get the vaccine (which is their right not to) then it follows that more people stand a chance of catching it. The longer the virus is widespread in the community then the more chance it has to mutate, and the more it mutates then the more chance it has of becoming dangerous to those who have already been vaccinated. So if there are enough of them then everyone is put more at risk. The other effect of the anti maskers and anti vaxxers is that if they do get infected then they will still expect to be treated on the NHS. The longer we are treating people with covid then the,longer the NHS will have less resources to treat other unconnected conditions.
I can't believe how well the SNP are doing in the polls because of this virus. They are just in a win-win scenario, stoking nationalist propaganda with every death. I am convinced we are witnessing the death of the UK; there is simply no reason for it to exist anymore. But Nicola Sturgeon is a just a media manipulator. Scotland's handling of corona has been just as dreadful, if not even worse considering they have a larger death rate per capita in government controlled facilities than England, they have continuously failed to improve Scotland's poor education numbers, the Scottish economy continues to struggle and they are openly for handing over an independent Scotland's international policies to an outside system directly after leaving the Westminster system. Scotland have the winning hand of nothing that goes wrong is the fault of the national parliament while everything that's positive in Scotland is the responsibility of the SNP and Nicola. As someone who strongly believes England and Wales will never split, I hope to see the shipbuilding work provided by the British Armed forces to migrate to Wales and all of that financial aid that Scotland receives shifting south of the border to Northern England and Wales. We have been neglected far too long for those mongrels over Hadrians wall.
Andrew Neil is spearheading GB News which will be a self-proclaimed right wing news channel "to add plurality to the British news market." The investors have openly said they are aiming to test the appetite for a Fox News style channel in the UK, though Neil himself is claiming it will be nearer to the centre of politics than Fox. Despite being left of centre myself, I like Andrew Neil as an interviewer because he usually gives everyone a hard time no matter who he is interviewing. However, he has always been very right wing in his own political views and background. He was a conservative party member and chairman of a conservative student group which was always to the far right side of the Tory party, though after Neil left it became even more right wing and militant. Ironically, the times his own views did show through most during his broadcasting career were when he was interviewing Tories and giving them a hard time about policies that were not Tory enough.
That will be because the Tories are pretty much just Liberals with blue ties. Cameron was massive on that line of thinking, it's why the Liberal Democrats pulled centre left as Labour went full on left and lost all of their base.
