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Has Lewis Hamilton got the yips?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Masanari, Oct 8, 2011.

  1. mephistopheles

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    Don't you think we've kicked this dog long enough?
     
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  2. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Manny, you are Schumachers PMC.
     
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  3. Masanari

    Masanari Active Member

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    Correctamundo <ok>, after accusing Alonso of slowing him down in quali.
     
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  4. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Miggins, you are a troll.

    It is a shame, that when Michael is ridiculed and I post a comment from his point of view ... I am automatically labeled a WUM... quite sad and becoming more apparent. Thanks.

    Mifune, Hamilton slowed down two drivers today, and is blaming one of them for SLOWING him down... go fish...
    There is something not right with that is there.
     
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  5. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Two different accounts of the same story - it seems to me like Hamilton's first comment was his initial reaction and his second comment was his thoughts after he had seen a replay of the incident. It's similar to the Kobayashi incident at Spa - first he said "he crashed into me" but later apologised after seeing the replay.

    Anyway back on topic, I think Vettel's dominance, Button's impressive driving, Hamilton's desire to be the next Senna and a general lack of judgement/impatience when overtaking has affected Hamilton a lot this year. Until he comes to terms with these things, I expect him to continue driving poorly.
     
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  6. mephistopheles

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    changed my mind carry on kicking I'll just watch
     
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  7. EternalMSC

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    When he saw the incident he realised he had made a mistake... it is ok to admit that. Good research Forza.
     
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  8. EternalMSC

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    Haven't you posted that twice now?
     
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  9. mephistopheles

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    I did but I'm not sure why
     
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  10. Jarel258

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    As soon as I saw the replay the first thoughts were " Woahh what the hell was Schumacher trying to do" and "What the hell slowed Lewis down? His fault or Team's?"

    Following the interviews with Martin Whitmarsh and Lewis himself it was indeed his fault, was too slow coming to start his hot lap. Let's be honest Lewis's first reaction is not his real/normal/appropriate reaction(Monaco this year). I think it's all part of Lewis's bad season, and next year I hope we don't have to be talking about his bashing into other drivers or about his PR skills but we can be talking about him racing aggressively but inside the limit.
     
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  11. RoadRunner

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    Haven't we kicked this dog long enough?
     
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  12. SgtBhaji

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    I can hear Harry Enfield's scousers in my head saying "calm down, calm down".
     
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  13. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    No, it's when you defend him blindly all the time when it's blatantly clear to everyone else that he's crossed the line, yet again, that you get ridiculed and labelled WuM (although I don't think I've ever labelled anyone a WuM, RI got COGT'd and you PMC, and most inhabitants of the earth parasitic moronic sheep at one time or another, but not a WuM.)
     
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  14. mephistopheles

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    Don't you start :)
     
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  15. RoadRunner

    RoadRunner Well-Known Member

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    Haha, I thought the third time would be the charm ;)
     
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    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    He said face to face, not helmet to helmet... <whistle>

    Hamilton seems more concerned with being a celeb than a racing driver, which is reflected in his choice in manager. You can tell by his erratic behaviour both in and out of the car that he's overly concerned with how he's perceived. Monza is a good point, he was unwilling to attack Schumacher and risk a DNF and the subsequent bad press.
     
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  17. Aloonatron

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    I am not sure why people really see this as a 2011 only thing. Since 2009 the wheels have been coming off for Lewis, like a McLaren coming out of the pits at Silverstone, only in slow motion in Lewis' case.

    Sure, he has the odd great race, but then he has some that are not so memorable, or remember for all the wrong reasons.

    For example, people seem to forget the races towards the end of last season where Alonso scared him off of the road a couple of times and Lewis gave up his position without a real fight. He's had some moments of brain fade this season too with restarts that have hardly been super sharp, but it's not just been this season.

    Part of the problem for Lewis is that he is Mr F1 excitement as far as the media are concerned, and he is the soap opera too. There aren't many other drivers who have to put up with this treatment. He looks like he is carrying the F1 world on his shoulders sometimes.

    The good news is that his talent will always be there, and I don't think that you can get the yips in F1, but I take you point. For what it's worth, IMHO, I think that all Lewis needs to do is get some perspective and just go about racing like it's all that is important in his life. Rather that thinking about being the most exciting guy in F1, not thinking about being the drive with a pretty pop star for a girlfriend, not thinking that he has to be "the Tiger Woods" of F1 with Puff daddy (or whatever he's called this week) etc in his pit, and all the other guff that he seems to get caught up with.

    Just think about driving and driving alone.

    For inspiration he just needs to glance over to the other side of his garage and see what his team mate is up to. A man who lives in the exciting world of the Channel Islands and takes part in triathlons in his spare time. Hardly the most exciting life in the world, and I couldn't tell you much about Vettel's life and whether it's any more exciting to be honest, but maybe that's the point.

    Drive Lewis, Drive!
     
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  18. chrispa76

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    @Aloonatron
    Excellent post there! You hit the nail on the head and I agree with it fully.
     
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  19. mephistopheles

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    Perhaps Lewis has spent to much time schmoozing with Nicole and her group of paper thin celebs
     
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  20. Jarel258

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    "For example, people seem to forget the races towards the end of last season where Alonso scared him off of the road a couple of times and Lewis gave up his position without a real fight."

    The words "Alonso forced him into an error or mistake come to mind"(Brazil and Korea) not Fernando scaring Lewis off the road because Lewis is not scared by Fernando. Like Legard once said when it's Hamilton and Alonso there's an extra edge and buzz and a sense too push harder too force one into an error.
     
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