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England - What a waste of space!

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Dark Lord SFC, Oct 7, 2011.

  1. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Normally I would hav listened to it on the wireless but I have really lost interest in the National side.
     
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  2. saintgreg10

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    England are a let down as per usual and Rooney has yet again proved to be a complete idiot rather than a national hero figure we all wish he was.

    If Booby Moore was alive, he'd be more ashamed than anyone at the state of the English national team.
     
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  3. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    Absolutely right mate although I think you meant ashamed rather than disgraced as Bobby was never that.
     
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  4. saintgreg10

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    Yeah, sorry, I meant ashamed ! Had a late one last night as you can tell!


    Looks like the England rugby team are taking inspiration from the national football team as well!
     
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  5. Gordon Gekko

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    well it's pretty easy to see why England are crap

    Hart - good enough
    Jones - CB, not RB, not ready for Englang
    Cahill - Not good enough
    Terry - On his way out
    Cole - World Class
    Walcott - Not good enough
    Parker - Not good enough
    Barry - Not good enough
    Young - Good enough
    Bent - Not consistent enough
    Rooney - Rooney

    How on earth is that team going to compete on a world scale?
     
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  6. saintgreg10

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    They wont compete simple as that.

    This the weakest England side i've ever known - Even England B teams of old would be able to beat them with ease
     
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  7. saintgreg10

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    Oh well, at least we have the rugby team to do us proud... <whistle>
     
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  8. Saint-Harry

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    What a shambles, both England teams awful!
     
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  9. Itchen North Matt

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    I challenge you to pick an 11 that's any better. When you say "not good enough" do you actually mean I expect better from them? If players aren't that good, but they're the best we've got and they put the effort in, we can only accept that and wait for the next generation of players to step up. The jury is out on whether they put the effort in, but the team doesn't work as a unit and it's awfully clunky to watch.
     
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  10. RorSFC

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    Deary me it's hardly weak! We have a good future...

    Hart, Richards, Walker, Jones, Smalling, Cahill, Cleverley, Wilshere, Henderson, Adam Johnson, Young, Chamberlain (hate to say it), Welbeck and, whatever you say about Rooney, he's one of the best strikers in the world (the best all-round striker IMO) and at least he shows a bit of passion!! Then there's the likes of Martin Kelly, John Flanagan, Raheem Sterling, JWP, Luke Shaw etc.

    For example, if we played:

    Hart
    Richards, Jones, Smalling, Cole
    Cleverley, Wilshere
    Johnson, Rooney, Young
    Welbeck

    That's a good team with a lot of potential! We need to use the Germans as an example of having a young, tight-knit team that's going to grow up together.

    I hope we get Redknapp next year to give the players a bit of confidence and get us playing proper English attacking football. Keep the faith, we'll get there. <ok>
     
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  11. settheSTandard

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    Watched the first half, then went channel hopping and found Spain v Czechs. Didn't return to the dross of England till the final whistle was blown. England might have qualified but can't see beyond Spain to win it.
     
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  12. OddRiverOakWizards

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    How can you say Parker is no good but Young is? Parker and Cole were the best of the bunch. Soon we could try a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 like these:

    Hart,
    Richards, Smalling, Jones, Cole,
    Wilshere, Parker, Cleverly
    Sturridge, Welbeck, Rooney

    OR

    Hart,
    Richards, Smalling, Jones, Cole,
    Wilshere, Parker,
    Sturridge, Rooney, Young
    Welbeck
     
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  13. OddRiverOakWizards

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    Sorry RorSFC - Championship Detour must have been posting at the same time, our formation and team selection looks very similar! I just wonder who could captain the side without Terry, as I am not sure Rooney is the right choice!
     
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  14. devonFRATTONiser

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    When I saw the title I thought you meant the rugby team - then I saw it was written last night!
     
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  15. RorSFC

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    Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who can see the bigger picture! Forgot about Sturridge, but it just proves how many top players we have with the potential to be world class. Andy Carroll's a class player when fit as well. I could see maybe Phil Jones or Jack Wilshere being potential captains?

    I think we need to start again and give these youngsters a chance. It's not like they're not playing week in week out now!

    We just need a bit of belief and pride injected into the players. I know many Saints fans will think differently, but Harry's the man!
     
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  16. saintgreg10

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    The majority of the young German team have played together right from academy level - the majority of the England team have not.

    It's a team of individuals and a team of mediocre individuals at that. They might be great playing for their clubs against the likes of Wigan and West Brom every weekend but up againts Brazil, Argentina, Spain etc - no chance
     
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  17. Itchen North Matt

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    I'm not convinced such a young team would solve our problems, but anything is worth trying at the moment. Next season, Saints will be in the PL and Lallana in the England team, which should set things straight!
     
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  18. RorSFC

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    Well I disagree. These are world class players that just need a bit of confidence and belief!
     
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  19. Gordon Gekko

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    This. Other's are either looking at things through rose tinted glasses, or too young to remember the last half decent England team.
     
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  20. saintgreg10

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    On what basis do you think they have qualified themselves to be labeled as world class?
     
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