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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Remember when spurs thought they were getting him and ended up with Gedson Fernandez instead <laugh>
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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  4. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    To deliberately play the ball (which is what the rules says) you have to have some form of control of the ball, otherwise it’s merely a deflection. That’s why it was pedantic, happy to help.
     
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  5. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Just as a side issue, I read this when looking up Rule 11:

    • "a player in an offisde position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence"
    Really? That's what it says. Hmm, Prickford......


    (Let it go) :angry:
     
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  6. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    It wouldn’t include deflections off crosses, as that’s not a deliberate playing of the ball by an opponent. It was offside, get over it.
     
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  7. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    It really doesn't ... sounds closer to gorgonzola ... now if his name was Tipples perhaps <whistle>
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    That's not remotely true, though. You've just completely made it up.
    You can play the ball when another player has control of it, nevermind not having control yourself.
     
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  9. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    No you've just made bit up about being in control. That's your interpretation rather than fact.

    If you slide to block a cross then you've evidently made a deliberate attempt to play the ball.
     
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  10. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Powerspurs was pointing this out the other day in the Leicester v Southampton game, I think it was.
    Long was way offside from the ball striking the bar and was fouled before it came back to him.
    Reading that, it should be a penalty. It isn't reffed like that, though.
     
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  11. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Guessing a tackle isn't playing the ball either.
     
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  12. Tobes

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    A deliberate playing of the ball, explain how that wasn’t a deliberate playing of the ball? It was offside, the end.
     
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  13. remembercolinlee

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    Nor did we <laugh>
     
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  14. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    C'mon now - at what stage did Lovren have that ball under control? Quite literally, if a defender stretches towards a cross and merely deflects it towards an opponent 5 yards in an offside position, who then scores, it's a goal because the defender deliberately attempted to play the ball . Absolutely diddly about control in the rules. Shall I post them, or just the link?
     
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  15. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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  16. Tobes

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    Ok mate you win I made the bit up about control and you made the bit up about that being offside tonight.
     
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  17. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    And you also made up the bit about crosses being different somehow.
     
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  18. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    What the **** has a Zenit player have to do with that goal tonight like? <laugh>

    Posters wrongly arguing it was offside somehow strengthening their argument by me mentioning the word control as opposed to merely deliberate.

    Go figure.
     
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  19. Tobes

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    Nope. Deliberate.
     
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  20. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah you can deliberately block a cross. Big part of a wide players job.
     
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