Sadly Rooch it's the way of the world. Now i can see the good and the bad of Unions but one thing that has occurred over the years is that when employers are forced to pay a certain amount whether the employee actually deserves the payment means that is they can save some money they will. Company's will try to hide their profits because once they're known the unioins will be after more pay for their members which is understandable. That being said i've never seen a union offer to take a pay cut if the company is struggling. Happy to be corrected but as i said, i personally have never seen it. For what it's worth, i was a staunch unionist for over 30 years and still believe that they have done a hell of a lot for workers rights. However, I was involved in an enterprise bargaining negotiation. What those who wanted to be re elected failed to see was that if the wage demands were met we would need to lose 20% of our workforce. Guess what, we lost 20% of our workforce.
Ideally, money is out in the world, doing some good but often it's caught up in the absolute corruption of our insane, synthetic banking system. But as Saff says, their money, their choice.
I don't get that personally. At all. I see paying tax as a badge of honour. It means I've done well for myself and can now help others less fortunate while paying for the infrastructure I use. Seems that isn't exactly a universal view.
I certainly don’t see paying tax as a badge of honour DDU but I know that it’s necessary if we need to live in a well ordered society. Although being a cop you all pay my wages apparently. Which is nice as I don’t have to pay any tax being a government employee.
That's not the worst mate. They once flew in for a day and a night so asked me to bring in a Michelin starred chef as their's was ill. I managed to get one but it was very expensive as it was summertime on the French riviera. The chef, Fred, started preparing dinner at 6am and prepared 3 starters, 3 mains and 3 deserts so they had a choice. At 8pm the boss asked me to call the chauffeur and his personal security detail as they were going out for dinner ... Fred actually cried when I told him, sobbed on the kitchen floor! So I offered the food to the on site security guards who were the only people around at that time. As they were all Russian, and daren't cross the boss, they refused. So Mrs Smug foiled it up and we took it to the homeless up by the football stadium. The next day I was absolutely roasted by my boss, in London, for giving the food away to 'beggars'. It wasn't long after that til we left, there's a limit to what you can turn a blind eye to.
Reports in the press this morning that th UK is aiming to have all over 18's vaccinated by June. Absolutley brilliant news of they pull it off
The other side of a coin is you’d be fuming if the boss took his business to another country to pay less tax but if you found out your mate was in the factory across the road and he only paid half the tax you are which factory would you prefer to work in?
Trickle down economics don't work in my mind. Lowering tax at the very top rewards the mega rich in personal wealth and takes away from the communal wealth of the nation. That's my take. Could be wrong.
I agree with your point about bankers. The banks are a disgrace. Wanting public money bailouts whilst handing out huge bonuses to underperforming executives.
Depends on the business I'd think. If that boss took his business abroad, or god forbid to a sweatshop to save a few quid and keep people abroad in abysmal conditions, yeah. I'd think they were scum. I'm not talking about taxing factory workers. They're not exactly hoarding wealth and cheating the tax system out of billions.
When you talk about mega rich. Did you know over a third of UK billionaires have moved to a tax haven in the last decade. That means the UK is unable to get a penny from them. Where is the sense in pushing the mega rich away with high taxes? Why not make the tax rate appealing to them, which would in turn benefit the country too.
Difficult one. I completely get what you mean but it just sickens me that we have to try lure them back. When we cut their tax, what's to stop them decide that's not enough? They should get another cut, because they're just so damn valuable. Where does it stop?
I can see your point I’m just saying if you are a billionaire employer he’d be thinking why am I paying loads more tax than my mate I’m moving there the same as I would think my mates coming out with a £100 quid more a week than me I want a job there. I think the problem is what they do with it more than how much they make.
If I'm a billionaire employer I'm happy paying my tax mate. I've got more than I or my family, will ever need.
That's true in my experience. The American banker we worked for, he retired at 32 years old, was so mean I used to tip people behind his back. I asked how much I should give the post lass and binmen at Christmas ... ... he said 'Nothing. If they're religious they'll get their reward in heaven, if not they're getting time off for nothing'.
