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Off Topic London Calling: Summer Holidays Abroad 2021 in doubt?

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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I've been thinking about this and thought it would've given the NHS, all other essential workers, a massive boost. However, I think when this is all over, we should rename a square, landmark or even a bank holiday after all the EWs.
     
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    Their extraordinary efforts need to be recognised in some kind of permanent way. More respect for them from the general public and better pay and working conditions, especially for nursing staff, would be good too.
     
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    £13,000,000,000.00 down the pan, or into friends and relatives pockets depending on your view
     
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    Depends which friend/neighbour/pub landlord/relative of Mag Halfcock is running it at the minute.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I'm not asking to be provocative, I'm struggling to keep up with the French and UK situations.

    Sometimes it looks like France is doing well then I'm not sure. Mind you with the same population as the UK, and land borders with highly infected countries like Spain, Italy, Germany, etc, I suppose they deserve credit for having 15,000 fewer deaths.
     
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    When you consider that France is nearly 2.5 times the area of England doesn’t look to good.
     
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    Coming from the Guardian. I'll take that with a pinch of salt. They'd never get anywhere near enough support for a serious challenge.

    Your first line proves my point. If the Government do well, you'll refuse to praise them for it. Instead you'd rather go hunting for any mistakes, or even potential mistakes that they might make.

    I don't think people should be looking to score political points when there's over a thousand people dying every day, at the moment, with Coronavirus.
     
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    I'd like to see Dominic Raab, next up after Boris.
     
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  9. Saf

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    This 100% <ok>
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

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    The population isn't dotted around the whole of France, huge areas are virtually uninhabited.

    Paris, as an example, has around 12m people to London's 9m.

    It's also crammed into a much smaller area than London, it covers only 2% of the country.

    I think the fact that France has so many land borders can't be ignored.
     
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    I would check your figures London is about 4 times as densely populated as Paris
     
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    Of course it can. You ignore that the UK public bares a lot of responsibility for the spread of the virus and the governments amazing work procuring vaccines.

    What does land borders have to do with it? Did France not close their borders? If not, who is at fault for that? If they did why do the land borders matter?
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    (Paris is the most densely populated city in Europe, with 21,000 inhabitants per square meters.)

    Anyway that wasn't my point.

    I was saying sometimes France looks to have done well, sometimes not.

    I'm not defending France, just giving an opinion.

    As far as borders are concerned it matters because sea and air border restrictions are much easier to enforce than road and rail.

    More workers commute between countries like France and Italy than the UK and France.
     
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    The vaccinating is doing well BECAUSE it is an in house NHS project. No spiv mates of the government's companies as intermediary "providers" to adminster the vaccine, no worrying about profit margins or shareholders to appease. Simple but very effective. As it should be.
     
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    France is being managed by one person. The UK has 4 different governments setting out different guidelines for their citizens to follow. So really you are comparing France to 4 different nations who are all doing things differently.
     
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    Cool.

    Did the NHS make the decision and have the money to have all the vaccine orders in place right from the start then or was that down to the government?
     
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    When you add the suburbs of Paris the populations of the two are about the same so yes you are right sometimes they look as though have done well sometimes they don’t.
     
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    So, are you saying the other 3 regions are distorting England's figures in an adverse way?
     
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    It's the other way around Rooch, Paris is around 4 times more densely populated than London
     
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