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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by GroveRanger, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. GroveRanger

    GroveRanger Well-Known Member

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    Only if they have tested negative for Covid
     
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    Excess deaths in 2020 = 91,000 above levels in 2015-2019 ... but it's just like normal flu innit?
     
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    EDGE. Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    Deaths per 100,000 shows that 2020 was the 26th most deadly year in the past 40 years.

    All cause mortality was exceptionally low in years 2017-2019 as the flu season was mild so there was more infirm people to infect and sadly die this year after contracting SarsCoV2.

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    Remember, we have a greater population now and more elderly and had mild flu seasons the past few years.

    Now factor in the 30,000 non Covid excess deaths at home as folk were scared to overwhelm are beloved NHS so didn't go to hospital, factor in the excess suicides, factor in the excess cancer deaths that will have happened and will still happen as folk are denied screenings due to the NHS becoming the Covid response unit.

    The Government has completely ****ed up, all the evidence points to them ****ing up, Lockdowns don't work, closing schools is unnecessary, masks are a complete waste of time, closing gyms is an insane policy based on obesity being a driver of CV19 infection severity.

    The fallout from this will be enormous, the Govt's fear propaganda will result in more deaths than the virus ever will, millions of jobs lost, debt levels at historic levels and a population totally brainwashed for a virus that kills hardly anyone.

    "The whole world can't be wrong"... It's not the whole world... it's just most of Western Europe and some of the Americas.... oh and Sweden's laissez-faire approach to "controlling the virus" seem them crippled with a huge surge in excess deaths too...

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    The State is the issue, egged on by Totalitarians in the media and SAGE.

    Most folk don't realise that Government is the cancer which is killing the people it is there to serve, only we are serving them with huge salaries, perks and corporate opportunities as they tell us to live by rules they set us but have no intention of adhering to themselves.
     
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    You didn't use enough graphs and tables, or quote a reputable source in the mainstream media, so I don't believe you.
     
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    EDGE. Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    I am not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic, but my position remains unchanged.
     
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    You'll stiffen up.
     
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  7. EDGE.

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  8. Toby

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    Those graphs are fake news. Yearly death count for 2020 is 675000 I think.

    We both agree that this Government is incompetent and their attempts at sorting out this ****show have been pathetic, they've just used it to curb freedoms and pocket ****loads of cash.

    There is a real disease out there that's killing people though. Doing what NZ did would have been slightly more effective.
     
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  9. GroveRanger

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    Ciaran Going for 55

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    EDGE. Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    It's an older graph and is qualified as being an estimate.

    NZ wouldn't have worked here and why would anyone want it if they are of rational thought.

    Sweden being the poster-boy of a liberal democracy and trusting its people to do the right thing as opposed to us in our 3rd lockdown and cases still going through the roof.

    I've lived under restrictions for nearly 10 months bar 3 weeks in the summer - all for absolutely nothing because here we are back to the start.

    Wales has been under lockdowns and circuit breakers for 14 weeks and it's doing nothing to control the virus.

    When will people realise that the Govt are not controlling the virus, they are controlling the people and ruining our economy and society at the same time.
     
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  12. Ciaran

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    I agree with this albeit they're not doing it deliberately they're just pish at their job/****ebags
     
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    Very naive our leaders have sold us out to the highest bidder.
     
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  14. EDGE.

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    However much I wish for that to be true, they are not stupid and know exactly what they are doing.

    They are being advised and egged on by Totalitarians in SAGE and the media. Remember, these folk look down their nose at the ordinary folk in the street as stupid and can't be trusted.

    The longer this goes on, the more I believe it is deliberate and won't go away.
     
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    I've yet to hear/read anything to convince me it is deliberate. Is the virus a lie or have they taken the opportunity it has presented?
     
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    Got to spend our license fee on summat.
     
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  17. EDGE.

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    Option B. New virus, ramp up fear, steal freedoms, repeat.
     
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    Any Politician not taking advantage of something like this is not doing their jobs properly. Sinn Fein went from absolutely anti EU to European darlings in the blink of an eye after Brexit for example.

    These laws and regulations will only stay in place if folk allow it. Yours is Holyrood and not Westminster. Once the vaccine starts to kick in and the 'numbers' start to fall we will be on the pigs back mate.

    Then get the Ethics charter within the WHO changed to ****.
     
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    They want people to work and spend money. At the moment we're not at full capacity, so the ****s aren't getting their outrageous share of the profits of our labour.

    It's like the ******s that think the richest people on this planet want to implement communism. Why would they **** themselves over to save the little people?
     
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  20. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    It's mental that people think a Tory Government (or any capitalist Government) wants the economy to collapse. Non computé Alez uber
     
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