Maybe Tony Blair should have done some research before spouting off!! Why you're not fully protected from COVID-19 after a single vaccine dose Mia de Graaf and Hilary Brueck Jan 5, 2021, 2:35 PM Both Pfizer and Moderna'a COVID-19 vaccines require two shots, given weeks apart. Siphiwe Sibeko/Pool via AP Most COVID-19 vaccines are given as two shots, administered several weeks apart. Protection does not start when the needle hits your arm. It takes some days after each shot for the body to mount its own immune response to the novel coronavirus and prevent disease. Experts don't know exactly how protected from infection people are after their first shot, but there are signs of slight — but not full — protection after a couple weeks. Only weeks after a second shot should people feel secure that they have a very low chance of getting COVID-19. Even then, their risk is not zero. Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories. As 2021 begins, millions of people around the world are starting to get COVID-19 vaccines. Shots that have been approved so far (Pfizer and Moderna in the US; Pfizer and AstraZeneca in the UK) have proved highly effective, providing up to 95% protection from the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. However, vaccine immunity doesn't kick in immediately. Each of these vaccines requires two shots, administered several weeks apart, in order to provide people with a robust, long-lasting form of protection against the virus. Although there is some evidence a first dose can start bolstering the body's defenses against the novel coronavirus, it's only after the second shot that your risk of infection can plummet to as little as 5%. As Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said in December, it would be a "big mistake" to rely on just one shot of his company's vaccine to keep you safe from disease. While one shot could help begin to control the pandemic, Bourla told reporters, "with two, you almost double the protection." Here's what we know — and don't know yet — about when and how these new shots protect people from infections. Yes, you can get COVID-19 after the first shot of a two-dose vaccine Dr. Jason Smith showed off his bandage after getting vaccinated at the University of Louisville Hospital in Kentucky. Already, there have been several instances of people who have gotten their first shot subsequently getting infected with the novel coronavirus. One nurse in California got COVID-19 six days after his first shot, and another emergency-room doctor in Georgia came down with COVID-19 nine days after his first dose of Pfizer's vaccine. "This was just dumb luck," Josh Mugele, the ER doctor, told Insider's Aria Bendix. "I happened to be exposed within a few days of getting the vaccine, but this still is the best tool we have for fighting the virus." Vaccinated people do get some form of protection from their first shot, which generally kicks in after about two weeks. But two shots have been shown to be more effective for stronger, longer-lasting immunity. "The second dose gives you ten times higher immune response than the first dose," Moncef Slaoui, the US's chief science advisor for the vaccine rollout, said on CBS Sunday. Vaccines train the body to fight the coronavirus, and that takes time Pfizer and Moderna have created mRNA vaccines, which include pieces of genetic material that teach the body to recognize and attack something called "the spike protein" — a unique feature of the novel coronavirus that latches onto human cells. It works fast, but not instantaneously.
And there lays the problem of this virus. People believe because they’ve had it they are immune. Now I know some people who think that it’s ok they can carry on back to normal life by doing what they want. One of my friends is one of those. Bare in mind they think a lot of people have had it without knowing it so what’s to say the 1000 who died in the past 24 hours may have already had it? That’s the issue. Or you had the previous strain but not the new one? It’s all a guessing game. However as in the vaccine you are a lower risk of contracting the virus again but not with carrying it and passing it on.
tomorrow should be the day [ should the new year weekend follow the trend that figures are closer to real time! just received bad news a nephew has been rushed to hospital and straight into/onto a ventilator in ICU [ aged 30 something ] ……..
I’m not ‘carrying on as normal’ ROD. I’m obeying the lockdown rules like everyone; wearing a mask when I go to the shop and socially distancing. The only difference for me is that I’m LESS worried about other people’s behaviour infecting me. I still have in the back of my mind that I MAY get it again, but I firmly believe that I’ve got a better chance of not getting it than someone who hasn’t had it. Maybe my 1 in 100 figures are wrong - it was only an opinion anyway, but rightly or wrongly I feel more confident in myself than I did before. As I said earlier in this thread, I have tried to volunteer my blood and really want to help. I’ve been lucky and want to bring a benefit to others less fortunate.
I’m not saying that you’re being flippant to the rules. I used my people I know for that example for this. But I also have friends who’ve had it that are like you and carrying on with the rules. It is just the ones that think they’re invincible that create the issues. Yesterday I saw Gwent Police put a message out to Blaenau Gwent saying the below, which shows there is still an issue that people are just not getting it. This is an area that had high infection rates a few months ago. So how many are people that have had it, thinking they are safe.
Simples Some people are basically unthinking and uncaring morons and still think they are entitled to do as they wish. And I don't care which background you are from, or how rich or poor you are. Short of having the Army deployed on the streets to shoot those who wont take any heed, everyone has heard and seen the advice and it couldn't be much clearer.
Thank f*** I don't live in France anymore, being a Brit believe me would put on the same level as the migrants that they help to arrive on our shores. Vaccine doses given out by EU countries Germany - 316,962 Italy - 182,442 Spain - 139,339 Poland - 92,220 Denmark - 51,512 Romania - 41,609 Portugal - 32,000 Greece - 16,233 Hungary - 15,000 Croatia - 13,798 Czech Republic - 13,000 Slovakia - 7,201 Austria - 6,000 Slovenia - 5,934 Finland - 5,445 France - 5,000 Bulgaria - 4,739 Ireland - 4,000 Estonia - 3,188 Latvia - 2,923 Lithuania - 2,270 Malta - 1,400 Luxembourg - 1,200 Belgium - 700 Started today: Netherlands No data: Cyprus, Sweden Source: Our World In Data
The article was from the editor of Bild the German newspaper, the thrust was basically said "you think that you have problems, look at the mess in mainland Europe".
My self test is a ginger biscuit coated with a sprinkling of nutmeg with lemon tea ... tasted and smelt it this morning so seems ok!
There was a debate about this on Question Time a while back, just after the Pfizer vaccine had been approved and we were the first country to approve it. Some Brexiteers were claiming that it wouldn't have happened if we were still in the EU, because the EU employs its own scientists to review vaccines on behalf of the whole bloc. However, as usual the truth is somewhere in the middle. It's true that all the other EU states left the vaccine approval process to the Bloc's scientists - and it's true that they have been slower than us in coming forward with their approval. However, this has been their choice - they were NOT compelled to do this under EU law and they were free to employ their own scientists to do the job just as we did - they just chose not to. Would we have still acted independently if we were still a member of the EU? We would certainly have been able to, but we probably would NOT have done, because the EU review team was already there - why spend more money to set up your own practice when there is already one in place which you have part-funded yourself by way of EU contributions? In short, Brexit definitely forced us to employ our own team - and it was quicker than the EU, but we would have had that option anyway if we were still members.
nephew now in very intensive care wife has it but at home, believe he got it from work... as has been extremely careful .. reality is because of his family problems [ ill child 24/7 ] he went to work because needed the money!!!
Last night BBC newsnight was still trying it's best to denigrate the UK vaccination efforts, I bet you won't see how **** our former EU masters are doing on BBC, heaven forbid that they should show a balanced view, but hey on the bright side their latest programme of vacuous so called pet owners, mercilessly poncing dogs up for our entertainment, looks like another BBC winner, NOT.
I've tried to support the government but they've made it tough for me to do so. First it was PPE, the magic test and trace, not closing borders etc etc. I've also little respect for Sir Keir Hindsight. Just hope the government don't screw up the roll out of the vaccine. The Forces should be handling this roll out.
I sort of agree with you, but I suspect it would have been the same whoever was in power, you only have to look towards Wales and Scotland. I thought the Forces were handling the roll out or was that yesterday?
I thank goodness Corbyn didn't win the election, hell, it would be far worse. Blair was as saying the Army is involved in a small way. Just wish they were in total charge. Far more used 'command and control'.
