Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

What's your opinion of the comments from the bloke linked, and the Newcastle report he is quoting from? It seems to suggest that the risk of reinfection is small to zero, at least within the first six months.

https://www.not606.com/threads/tier...-tier-5-for-now.387577/page-124#post-14482941

 

They don't use the Nightingales as they don't have the staff to man (sorry person) them.

 

Not listened. Who is he? Do you have a link to the report?

 

But then they aren’t trying hard enough are they to person them!

 

I posted a link to the report when it first came out. I'll see if I can find it again. I assumed it was something that would be doing the rounds of those involved.

EDIT: There was a link below the video I posted. https://www.journalofinfection.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0163-4453(20)30781-7


The guy in the video is Dr John Campbell, who is a retired Nurse Teacher and A and E nurse.

 

Could they not use the nightingales for non-covid patients, as presumably they have the staff for those? It would act as a barrier to infection for hospital staff and patients alike.

 

Yes,I am certain that the people with qualifications in Media Studies, The Spice Girls, Snowboarding etc will be able to do it. If they didn't consider those jobs to be beneath them or too much like hard work which might interfere with their social lives.

 

Now that’s one weird post

 

Still need staffing with qualified people. No doubt if they managed to then those put in it would be demanding a rebate on their NI contributions for not being in a main building, After all we have people stupid enough tp approve of the actions, and justify them and say they would do the same,
of a person avoiding restrictions returning from a country rife with a new strain of a virus, by stopping off in Dubai. The person so desperate to be reunited with his family.

 

Simple. Not enough people with the right qualifications and capabilities. Been like that for decades. Which is why we stole staff from poorer countries which had paid to train them and saved us the bother. Was the same whichever government was in.

 

Why would you assume that?

There’s lots going on with many different scientific collaborations between many different competitor companies, with a willingness to share data & info on a scale I’ve not come across before.

I personally wouldn’t read reports solely because they’re reported as it would have little impact on the data I create.

If I need to research, for my work, you tube would probably be the last place I’d look for information, I say this knowing I probably have access to on-hand knowledge & info not available to many others.

There’s also lots of **** (not saying John Campbell, retired nurse teacher who’s fb page is managed from the US & Pakistan, is ****) from people making you tube videos.

 

That's crap TOM
Hope everything goes as well as it can for you and your wife

 

That's rather dismissive of Newcastle University and the panel that put a lot of effort into compiling and validating the data sets, and rather a lazy dismissal of Dr John, who seems to be getting good respect and feedback from expert groups.

I could understand those slack dismissals it if it was simply referring to a poster making claims on a message board.

 

That's what they're doing, but it doesn't mean there are any staff available for them (outside London anyway)

In simple terms there are only so many qualified staff, and they are needed for both sets of people, so any additional work is either them working more, or it not happening (apart from bringing retired volunteers in which I know has happened too)

 

I’ve not read the report so I’ve not dismissed it.

I’ve not listened to Dr Campbell, retired Nurse Teacher, so not dismissing him.

I have listened to Dr John, he made some good music.

Reading & assessing reports is not part of my work. I question most things, that comes with my job.

I’d maybe question, if reading a report, how they came to their conclusions, what material & data they were privy to & what evidence they had to prove their conclusions.

If they’re suggesting (I don’t know, I’ve not read it) in their report a possible idea on the longevity of a vaccines effectiveness when it’s not a vaccine they’ve developed (they may have had input) or carried out long term studies (not had the time) to prove their hypothesis. I’d suggest it may well be a report based on speculation & educated presumptions rather than evidence based fact, but I’ve not read it so can’t really say.

 

I thought it could be of value, given you'd commented on the likelihood of reinfections. As you don't feel inclined to, I'll take that as it reads.

 

Staff hooked off their media studies course?

 

No chance. That would cause massive queues at McDonald's due to the staff shortages.

 

I mentioned there wasn’t data available to determine whether you could be reinfected once vaccinated or how effective the vaccines would be over time. There isn’t. There’s speculation & educated estimates but not evidence backed data. This will come in time.