The more accurate measure is from the Office for National Statistics for England and Wales which only records deaths which have Covid on the death certificate. The problem with that measure is it is two weeks behind because of the registration process. Their figures published on the 11th December 2020 showed 72,546 deaths in England and Wales. Edit, @DH4 beat me to it with more up to date figures
Sky news have always had this in small writing on screen saying deaths within 28 days of a positive test. I havnt read any clarification on this although I havnt searched for it. Always seemed to me to make the figures worse.
Surely the figures are guiding the government who are 'following the science'. The more deaths/infections the more restrictions.
The death numbers are absolutley heartbreaking and unfortunatley will keep going up over the next week or so. The key stats at the minute is hospital admissions and numbers in hopsital, it's been stupidly high and rising for the past 3 days. If I recall yesterday it was 22000? With admissions and numbers in hospital rising so rapidly certain trusts can't cope and are having to impliment emergency procedures such as moving patients into other parts of the country. Add that to the number of staff off either with Covid or self isolating and its fast become the perfect **** storm. January is going to be horrific
I suppose there has to be some standard but, as I've said, it's the general trend that should be considered, not day to day figures. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-uk-wide-methodology-agreed-to-record-covid-19-deaths The 4 UK Chief Medical Officers have recommended that a single, consistent measure is adopted for daily reporting of deaths across the UK. The UK government and the devolved administrations have agreed to publish the number of deaths that occurred within 28 days of a positive lab-confirmed COVID test result on a daily basis. This will provide accurate data on the immediate impact of recent epidemic activity. The methodology has been peer reviewed by independent academics to ensure that the best possible indicators are used, and that the methods are applied consistently across the nations of the UK.
So they close primary schools in the South but not in the NE...it worries me...I would rather the g'kids were kept off.
i have been told a few instances by people close to me whose relatives have died, and because they tested positive of Covid-19, the death is recorded as covid.... even though it was not the cause. they have had to argue to get the death certifucate cause of death changed. it suggests covid death figures are inflated, but the trend is alarming due to lack of capacity to deal with it. we need a national tier 4 approach until the frontline, elderly and at risk are fully vaccinated. teachers should be treated as frontline too.
Don't people have the right to information and judge for themselves ... ... people become suspicious if information is withheld.
Loads of people are dropping dead, the hospitals are struggling and the vaccine is starting to be used ... ... that's all the information you need, anything else is open to conjecture.
My son has an extra week off as he is in year 7, my daughter goes to a special school that has ages from 5 to 18 yet she is back in Wednesday
In which case you should ask the government why they're doing it? You can only know it's misinformation if you have the true information .... ... do you?
I think it's our thirst for information. The Department for Health and Social Care figures are issued daily and only include people who have died in hospital and have tested positive for covid in the previous 28 days irrespective of the cause of death. The ONS figures are more accurate but are issued less frequently because of the death registration laws. They include people who died in the community as well as hospitals and care homes and who have covid recorded on their death certificate.
Some people are treating the infections and death rates like cricket scores, it's like an obsession. It's enough for me to know that the rates are going up because the government are imposing more regulations.
