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Match Day Thread Swansea City v Reading

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Taffvalerowdy, Dec 28, 2020.

  1. Victor

    Victor Well-Known Member

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    This knee business has been played out now. How long does this go on for? .?...... .....
    How about a new one for the N.H.S staff..... Both BLACK and WHITE ........ These people work to SAVE lives of ALL coloured people, and not to cause any trouble and DIVISION..............So what about it?
    What if players stood upright, with arms outstretched in front of them, palms up for about 10 to 15 seconds.
    No division in that, but is that asking too much of this present society? How people have changed, but I will not give the knee, never mind what some of you may think.
     
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  2. swantastic

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    Scared to be called an ist if dont comply so virtue signalling on overdrive imo for the likes of this !
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  3. trundles left foot

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    I think you have nailed exactly how I feel, I also find distasteful the fist in the air as a power salute. Just my views. But good open anti racist initiatives have been sidelined
     
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    Do you honestly, hand on heart believe that this is what taking the knee is about ?
     
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  5. Stereo

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    So here's that pair outside the Liberty with their 5W flags stating that "Jacks kneel for nobody " - they are on twitter obviously

    https://twitter.com/murderbaycasual

    Pie n Mash Swansea. West Wales Fascism and Pie Enthusiasts.

    If everyone taking the knee is an apparent supporter of Yusra Khogali and her bile, then anyone against taking the knee is obviously a fascist aren't they ?

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  7. NorfolkSwan

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    Trouble is you’ll get knobs on both end of the cause taking it to the extreme for their own political gain.

    The knee and BLM simply started to show that Black Lives Matter equally to white - and I don’t think anyone can argue that.

    By having brain dead ‘fans’ like that hijacking the cause it makes it seem the club and community is not united for that very simple message.
     
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  8. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    For a lot of people yes
     
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  9. daimungeezer

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    Sorry "When Swans are flying", I meant to quote Nev - "I’d have left Lowe on" <doh>
     
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  10. daimungeezer

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    Exactly. So what was/is wrong with the "kick it out" campaign? Is that not enough? Is it not obvious enough. The taking the knee is ludicrous. It's becoming pantomime.
     
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  11. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

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  12. Victor

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    Well. Well, Well, ...... who would have guessed. ........... How much are they giving to the Natioal Health .
     
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  13. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    The slogan is fine and no one would disagree, the organisation is a totally different thing in my view. Any organisation who has one of its main aims as defunding the police has to be looked at more closely before using their name in name of equality.
     
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  14. When Swans are flying

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    Cooper needs a little change now. Need fresh legs..
     
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  15. Taffvalerowdy

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    Listen at/from 34:18

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000qwkg
     
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  16. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    I listened to it last night on catchup , painful to listen to at times . They don't speak on behalf of me or my Club
     
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  17. NorfolkSwan

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    Defunding the police is directly from the American issues and there can be no arguments that the USA pours ludicrous amounts of money into their police force instead of against root cause (rather than education/social care.)

    As there is no official organisation/hierarchy for BLM (which can be a good thing as it's a community lead movement), it means that statements like defunding the police can be co-opted by Uk demonstrators which is a more nuanced issue as we do have free education and social care (although it's funding is being slashed year on year) it's still worth examining.

    @Taffvalerowdy - that call in guy was very eloquent and highlights the fear that's very present of this underlying nastiness present in society.
     
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  18. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    Whilst they were outside the stadium, they appeared to be in the car park - which the Club controls via the lease from the Council.

    They don’t speak for me and they don’t speak for the Club
     
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  19. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/
    I see your source of information is from the Guardian itself not exactly a balanced exponent of the truth shall we say .As to it having "no official organisation/hierarchy " then I suggest you do a little more research
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