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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Apr 20, 2020.

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  1. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    You know I don't know much about it all. The talk about tariffs, goods and services goes right over my head, tbh. Everybody up here that I know voted to leave, though. Folk just say regardless if we are in or out it won't make much difference to anybody, so I don't think either side should be all that bothered if they put their pride to one side.
     
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    crazed remainers: "UK could always make their own laws inside the EU".
     
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    Oh well. At least @HRH Custard VC and the other low wattage bulbs are happy. Until they realise the foreigners aren’t going home, that is.
     
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    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    but they are not arriving either

    Keep crying, we are out and staying out the EU
     
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    crazed remainers: "Oh, no. We've left the EU transition period. What can we do to feel better? I know, I'll insult the people who won. It worked when I was in primary school and I've not changed since then."
     
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    Happy new year, Brains. Any resolutions?

    Personally, I’m going to stop taking the piss out of flag waving plastic patriots and Little Englander ******s. Might have to start tomorrow now.
     
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    Actually it works quite well because they don't possess sufficient brain power to counter an insult, it's quite rewarding really ripping the piss out of thicksters. Pleased you've got rid of the pickpockets, just a shame the nurses, doctors and carers hit the silk too. Never mind you Brexiteers can look forward to welcoming all those immigrants who come to replace them. You can easily recognise them, the ones with the dark skin.
     
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    Like the dopey remainers on here, they've tried to push a fake narrative about the whole issue, and in particular the opinions and motivations of the leave voters.

    They are devoid of humour or humility, so have painted themselves into a corner, where they continue to be the joke because they simply cannot accept they got it all so badly wrong. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    When we've reclaimed the 300 billion lost and the economy is in a better place, I'll accept the loss and admit Brexit was the right thing to do.
     
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    Private sector economists expect the UK GDP to expand by an average of 5.4% next year, according to forecasts compiled by the Treasury. That would mark the biggest leap forward for the economy in modern history. The Bank of England is even more bullish, forecasting growth of 7.25% in 2021.

    Forecasters believe the roll-out of COVID-19 vaccines will allow everyday life — and the economy — to get back to something like normal. That will allow GDP to rapidly bounce back, a little like taking the hand break off a car and rolling down hill.
     
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    Crazed remainers: "Things will be terrible as soon as we vote to leave."
    Crazed remainers: "We haven't left the EU yet. But then things will be terrible."
    Crazed remainers: "We haven't left the EU transition period yet. But then things will be terrible."
    Crazed remainers: "Give it a few years. Then things will be terrible."
    ad finitum ...
     
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    You, on the other hand, are an absolute bundle of laughs, and the very embodiment of wit, wisdom and good will.
     
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    The Editor at Bild is a little Englander. Who knew?

    No **** will read it like. <laugh>


    Germany is famous for its Christmas: our lights, our markets, our delicious food — even the brightly decorated Christmas trees we popularised centuries ago.


    But, along with the raft of new Covid vaccines, the best Christmas gift any of us could have hoped for is the newBrexitdeal between theEuropean Unionand Britain.

    And the man the continent should be thanking for that isBoris Johnson.

    This week, I wrote in my column in the German newspaper Bild that Boris has made world history.

    ‘Often ridiculed by our opinionated elite as a juggler and joker, he has led his country out of the EU — without being forced into economic self-mutilation,’ I wrote.

    ‘For years, all supposedly sensible pundits [in Europe] have told us that Brexit spells doom for Britain. Now they have to eat their words.’

    Politicians in Germany tend to be efficient but lack sparkle. Our long-standing Chancellor Angela Merkel almost seems to make a conscious effort to seem dull and technocratic, and perhaps this has served her well.

    So when someone unconventional appears on the political scene, there is a tendency to write them off as unserious.



    Well, never again. Perhaps it is precisely the more eccentric politicians like Johnson — who do not at all resemble the dull, stiff men and women in suits who roam most European corridors of power — that are most likely to achieve the impossible.

    Just because someone has tangled hair, is prone to bursting into Latin and has a somewhat chaotic private life doesn’t mean they cannot be a statesman of historic importance.

    Today, Europeans of all stripes know Boris as the man who stood up to the behemoth that is the European bloc and, against all the odds, won the day for his country.

    Of course, it was not all down to him: the European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen showed grace and integrity in making the French climb down from some of their more preposterous demands, while Mrs Merkel and our unsung foreign minister, Heiko Maas, also played key parts in helping to bring off the deal.

    Britain was also blessed by a brilliant negotiating team led by Lord (David) Frost, who never left Brussels in doubt that he was willing to walk away from the talks.


    Those of us who believe Britain made the right choice in leaving the EU were tickled when we heard how Lord Frost tended to infuriate his erstwhile opponent, the Frenchman Michel Barnier, by referring to the EU as ‘your organisation’.

    German EU diplomats told me they would be in stitches whenever Frost drove Barnier up the wall like that.

    Yet we must not ignore the fact that this historic deal could have come about only under a British Prime Minister who refused to be bullied by Brussels — as, I’m afraid to say, his two predecessors were.

    Boris’s approach was unique. Surely no prime minister in modern history would have dared to inflame negotiations so deliberately by threatening, as Johnson did in September, to break international law and renege on the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement signed last year.

    Five former PMs — every surviving one, indeed — were roused to indignant fury at the prospect.

    Yet that may have been the decisive moment that helped to unlock the terrible stasis in Brussels — and bring both sides back to the table.

    After years of docile, easily intimidated UK premiers, the Brussels machine realised for the first time that it was dealing with a government deadly serious about defending British sovereignty.

    Boris knew that most British people, proud of Westminster as the cradle of parliamentary democracy, would simply not accept surrendering their Parliament’s independence to an assembly elected under dubious regulations in Strasbourg.

    I was there when your Prime Minister came to Berlin on a swelteringly hot day in August 2019. With the rest of the German press pack, I stood in the Chancellery to see him be greeted by Mrs Merkel.

    It was clear that many of my fellow reporters had been briefed to watch out for mishaps: most were desperate to accuse Boris Johnson of some faux pas or to quote some remark that could be branded as ‘insensitive’ (and it’s true that Boris did serve up a few of those during his stint as Foreign Secretary).

    Yet the moment that all of us remember to this day was how deftly he dealt with Mrs Merkel. At the press conference that afternoon, Boris said he would do all it took to bring about an orderly Brexit.


    Then he glanced over to Mrs Merkel and said in almost accent-free German: ‘Wir schaffen das!’ (‘We can do it!’)

    Our Chancellor’s smile dropped.

    That little repetition of her most famous remark made at the height of the refugee crisis five years ago — during which she pledged to find a way to incorporate the huge numbers of migrants entering Europe — duly hit the spot and the headlines, and made his point perfectly.



    Mrs Merkel, he was saying, had shown she was willing to act unconventionally by opening her country’s borders. So why not craft a deal that created a special bond between Britain and the EU without forcing the former to be tethered to the latter’s laws?

    To this day, in common with much of Europe, Germany’s Left-wing media deplores Britain’s departure, even as it grudgingly welcomes the deal Johnson has brokered.

    I invariably try to explain that Brexit has always been a question of when, not if.

    Boris was right to call the EU a respectable project created by honourable men who were determined never again to wage war against each other.

    But within that noble and blameless ambition has always been the implicit drive to integrate ever further — and ultimately make Europe’s internal borders blur into one other.

    In the end — as Germany’s most respected politician today, Wolfgang Schaeuble, the President of our Bundestag Parliament, admits — the urge is to align fiscal and budget policies.

    This will centralise the EU to such an extent that not only separate national governments, but even the nations themselves will become a thing of the past, at least in all practical and legal senses.

    That is the final meaning of the ‘ever-closer union’ to which the British could not and would never agree.



    Whether or not it is right for Germany, France, Italy and the rest of the EU27 is one thing: but it is wholly irreconcilable with the British idea of sovereignty — based on your position as an island and also (in the case of England) as a geopolitical entity unconquered for almost a millennium.



    Part of Boris Johnson’s historic triumph may have been to help the rest of Europe to understand all this.

    By enhancing our knowledge in this way, perhaps he has taught us an important lesson — and given us a Christmas gift of sorts, too.

    And though I could offer him some of my country’s famous stollen cake in return, to tell the truth I’ve always preferred your own Christmas pudding.


    So next year, I’ll be putting one of those on my family’s table. And I’ll be glad it will have crossed the border thanks to a successful, free-trading partnership between your country and mine.
     
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    They will be left with the square root of fk all if they don't use stuff built by white men
     
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    Can someone explain geography to this dopey bint? How the **** does anyone leave her in charge of anything? <laugh>

     
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