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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by 123Daveyboy, Dec 30, 2020.

  1. Robref62

    Robref62 Well-Known Member

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    Ppl are very selfish, many cant give 2 fooks.
     
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  2. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    on a personal level im looking forward to the Oxford vaccine as i have more trust in it than the others, and hope that i can again watch our team start to climb back to where we belong
     
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    Hand cock = ****er
     
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    I am in the older / vulnerable category myself but I fully agree with you. However no government in the world will have the balls to be the first to condemn us oldies' to the obvious risks and for some deaths.
     
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    It’s certainly not me having an issue with older folk first, my dad is 69 and I’d love for him to be protected.

    It’s just bare logic isn’t it? Vaccinate folk who are mixing, mingling, travelling and potentially transmitting the disease.

    If we hit that square on the other risk groups are naturally less exposed. It just makes absolute sense for me.
     
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    Draig Well-Known Member

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    I would have any of them, but would prefer the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine as they have both demonstrated that they give the best protection.

    The Oxford vaccine has only demonstrated that they can screw up a clinical trial process and if it wasn't for the fact that we are in a pandemic, and some protection is better than none, I doubt that the oxford vaccine would have been approved.

    I'm not saying that it isn't safe, it is just that they don't know what the best dosing regimen is for it, and that should have been sorted out before they entered phase 3 trials.

    To make the Oxford vaccine's 60% to 70% basic protection rate sound better they had experts saying that the seasonal flu vaccine has about a 50% protection rate, which is true, but that is generally down to the fact that they have to guestimate which strains to include for that season's vaccine, based on what strains have been circulating in the opposite hemisphere during their winter. Plus influenza is a tricksy virus for mutating - luckily it generally mutates into another pre-existing strain which the population will have been exposed to in previous years, so have some residual resistance to.

    To get back to the Oxford vaccine, you have to wonder what has happened to give them such a low protection rate, especially as they are supposed to have been targeting the same coronal spike proteins as the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, and the information came from the same (Jan 11th) RNA sequence data that the chinese published.
     
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