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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    I didn’t say anything negative about the country. I just pointed out after years of you refusing to acknowledge the predictions of 99% of credible experts you suddenly place your faith wholeheartedly into this one forecast.

    Maybe our GDP will be ok in 10/20/30 years. It’s a useful metric for its simplicity but doesn’t address the more important issues of standard of living for the worst off and inequality.

    I could have gone back for a bit as it happens but your Party has made it all a lot more difficult to appease flag-waving idiots unfortunately.
     
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    Only flag waving idiots I ever see are the EU Loving mob outside Parliament.
    And you are always saying negative stuff about the country and you get pulled up on it all the time.
    Your problem is that you don’t know how to enjoy yourself. After this Covid crap has gone I will take you to the Tory tea party fete. Let your hair down for the day. Maybe Priti and May will be there? I know John Redwood will be.
     
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  3. QPRoma

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    Uk has a trade deficit eith the EU of 97 bn and a del was agreed.

    Uk has a trade surplus of 18 bn in services and a deal not agreed.

    In financial terms not a “victory” remains the sovereignty angle. Hard to pass a final judgment however we all hope to move on quickly.
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    It would be nice to let my hair down. Maybe you can wear a wig.
     
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    :emoticon-0147-emo: I just like to keep it short. I have a full head of hair.
    Meanwhile...
    just don’t let me get stuck with Andrew Mackey again. He bored me sh2tless last time!
     
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    Brexit: European Research Group of Conservative MPs gives support for EU trade deal
    A group of influential Conservative Brexiteers has declared its support for the EU trade deal agreed by Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
    The European Research Group (ERG) said the agreement, struck with Brussels on Christmas Eve, "preserves the UK's sovereignty as a matter of law".

    Well that's that sorted. All focus on Labour and SNP
     
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    Oh dear Norway not happy. They think deal we have is better than theirs and they are in the EEA.
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    The whole rotten house of cards will be coming down.
     
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    China's skillful management of the pandemic
    Is this report Chinese
     
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    The thing that worries me is the EU were so strict on our level playing field and employees rights and then they rush through a deal with China?
     
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    Seeing as talks started in 2014, I'd hardly say they were rushed
     
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    Funnily they have rushed through a few deals of late? I wonder why the great 27 would do that?
     
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    Weren’t you celebrating Liz Truss signing agreements with Timbuktu and Narnia after five minutes of waiting for the printer like a week ago?
     
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    Because China is under economic pressure from America, so has caved in on a few of the details that they were having trouble agreeing on - don't think it was fishing though <laugh>
     
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    I'm surprised how quickly the EU is approving deals of late? made the EU has lots of Rats/cats and Dogs?
     
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    mmm not happy that Boris dodged two questions on the financial services.
     
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    Not often I agree with Keir Starmer, but he's right to point the finger at SNP and tell them they are voting NO in the hope that others will vote YES and save the country from a no deal at the end of the week.
     
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    It's an opportunity for them - the Scottish fishing industry is raging at the deal, saying that their quotas are going to be massively reduced by it...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55470776

    However, the fishing industry in Scotland are predominantly not SNP supporters, so voting against the deal plays into their hand.

    Pure politics being played out here.
     
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    Yes, it is politics the SNP are playing. The arguments the Scottish Fishing Industry are putting forward to say they've done badly look complicated, involving the right to lease and the benefits of annual negotiations. But the fact is, surely, after the five year transition period, all UK fisherfolk will benefit when EU quotas are reduced in UK waters. So the Scots are complaining about the transition period only, and particularly 2021. Seems a bit shortsighted
     
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    Starmer started off badly but grew as it went along then was put down by May who had an excellent speech. Now we have that stupid fat Scottish 'Independence' bloke talking rubbish.
     
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    Starmer doesn't have much choice but to back the deal, or face no deal. But at least he's doing it. The SNP bloke, Blackford, is simply on a mission, making a nuisance of himself until the Tories have had enough and give him his second referendum
     
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